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Shinchonji: The Cult of Lee Man-hee (Links & Resources)
« on: August 14, 2012, 11:14:16 PM »
I've started a special updates thread and here it is.

Some quick links for those interested in learning more about Mannam. It's not exhaustive of course, but it's a start and it's growing as more and more people start questioning and digging:

In short Mannam Volunteer Association is a front for a Korean cult known as Shinchonji 신천지. The cult's leader Man Hee Lee claims to be the second coming of Jesus and that he will live forever. I'm skeptical of both claims^^. People who make such claims are often sociopaths and according to critical reports in Korea (mostly in Korean so far) that would appear to be the case. Mannam claims to have no religious affiliation which is a lie. Mannam states the volunteering should be done not to promote yourself but to benefit society, yet they've named a day after themselves. It's clear that Mannam is only concerned with Mannam and with gathering as many foreigners to their events as possible. The recent recruitment drive seems to be in preparation for the upcoming Sept. 16 event at Seoul Olympic Stadium. I know Shinchonji members from other countries are flying in for the event. It is certainly important to the group since Mannam is offering to bus in, feed, and cloth pretty much anyone with a heart beat and no other plans that day.

1: Forums for Expats where Mannam/Shimchonji is being discussed.
Stories of strange and negative experieces - signs there is a cult operating.
And stories of positive experiences  - signs that some Mannam branches are better at others at the art of front grouping.

http://www.waygook.org/index.php?topic=43242.0
http://www.waygook.org/index.php?topic=26159.0
http://www.expatkorea.com/bbs/showthread.php?23819-What-do-you-know-about-Mannam-Volunteer-Association
(Link Updated August, 2016)
[url=http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=223235]http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=223235


A few discussions on Reddit here, here, and here.
English Translation Of Korean CBS Report. Thanks Nathan for doing that for me :D

Upcoming Super Cult Leader Birthday Party: Sept 16, Seoul Olympic Stadium. The one everyone's being invited to.

Mannam Volunteer Association: Links & Resources

Shinchonji: The Cult of Man Hee Lee (Links & Resources)

Korean Language Critical Sites & News Reports

Experiences at Korean Independence Day and Crown Man Hee Lee Honorary President of Mannam Day, August 15, 2011:
http://thethreewisemonkeys.com/2011/10/17/branding-korea-how-about-culture-shock-day-with-mannam/
http://thethreewisemonkeys.com/2011/10/24/branding-korea-how-about-culture-shock-day-with-mannam-part-2/

An excellent and brave essay by a Korean university student. A must read for... everyone:
http://www.englishforums.com/English/ThisEssayDraftLook/qlmrp/post.htm

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They prepared a great variety of events: experiencing torture, making Korean traditional paper, watching a laser show and so forth.

That's right, one of the activities was experiencing torture (photo from threewisemonkeys article above)


Can I be a Japanese guard? Can I torture a Mannam person?

August 24, 2012, 12:05:05 AM
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« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2012, 12:05:05 AM »
Above are the key links... below what I first put down.. and it's a mess!

Just in:
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"This guy details all about the mannam doctrine to new mannam members, he was preaching to new mannam members for 7 years before he quit. He quit because he realized the members were insane, he has been busy exposing all of its secrets. He mentions the recruitment of foreigners is to bring in more Koreans."
http://m.blog.naver.com/downwave/150130059592

"My gf says there are dozens of cases pending against him (Man Hee Lee) ranging from kidnap, sexual assault and harrasment to theft"
http://m.blog.naver.com/PostView.nhn?blogId=downwave&logNo=150145410381&categoryNo=0&currentPage=1&sortType=recent&isFromSearch=true

This is a work in progress. I'd like to try describe Mannam as fully as possible in the one place. Information about them and accounts are spread far and wide, so hopefully this page can offer a collection of links which can be explored further whether you agree that Mannam is the Shinchonji cult. At the least this page can save someone time should they choose to start exploring Mannam and Shinchonji further. And it'll be a nice little memento for myself of an interesting and quite unique cultic experience.

I'll quote from other sites the material I believe worthy of note or just plain funny (both in a strange and comedic sense). In between links I'll offer my own perhaps rambling thoughts on the material out there based on my experience observing other cults like JMS, Junsghim, Dahhm, Brahma Kumaris. Once you get a good grip on how cults operate it's almost impossible to miss the signs. And all the signs are present here.

There's more worth commenting on that I first imaged. And it really is all over the place..this is going to be a work in progress for a while But some good links are here and more are coming in.  Last edited 9:22 pm, Thursday, Aug. 23.

Starting...

A question I sometimes ask on sites in Korea when I encounter a new group is "Has anyone heard of these guys?" usually the answers are negative. But in the case of Man Hee Lee's cult and its most important front group Mannam, that question becomes "Has anyone NOT heard of Mannam?" Same negative answers.

They are everywhere. And I do mean everywhere. There's one crouching under my desk as I type this.
Call from a friend yesterday, "What do you know about Mannam? At the uni I work at they're everywhere."
"They're everywhere here too! They're everywhere everywhere!"

Reports are coming in on sites for foreigners in Korea and it's quite rare to see a "never heard of them" comment.

http://www.waygook.org/index.php/topic,26159.0.html

The quote of the year is on there from Phoebe100:
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Basically the crux of the answer I got from the Mannam volunteers I know is - Ronald Mcdonald is the Chairman, the golden arches are our logo, "I'm lovin it" is plastered all over our events but because we're not actually feeding people cheeseburgers at events this doesn't count as promotion for Mcdonalds.

And it's great to see this issue being discussed and hopefully people learning about the topic in the process. I don't think it's a hard topic to get a grip on, but some people really just don't seem to comprehend it. Cult that lies and hurts people = bad. It's not exactly rocket science, but of course it can be hard to see when you only encounter the outermost "postive" and fake levels. And some people certainly have bought the image Mannam sells them. But through their own cultic practices and the speed of Internet word of mouth, the message seems to be sinking in that Mannam is a cult. And personally, it's been a great way to connect with others interested in the topic. There are a lot of people our there digging up dirt both online and in person. This is a fascinating phenomenon and an exciting time to be in Korea.

So in a nutshell, the Shinchonji cult through its front group Mannam has embarked on an unprecedented campaign specifically targeting foreigners in Korea. And they've been enormously successful in making themselves known to expats here. I haven't heard of anyone being asked to delve into the bible study course of the deeper Shincheonji cult. Instead Mannam seems (at present) satisfied to just bring people to events where they are of course photographed and videoed. Interestingly Mannam seems to operate as its own little cult, a cult within a cult if you will. At least more so than your typical cult front groups. I believe the leadership at Shinchonji has developed a brilliant strategy to attract new members without the need to indoctrinate them into believing leader (and Mannam honorary chairman) Man Hee Lee is the messiah. Instill a love for the name Mannam and the "volunteering" activities they do. Keep them busy with a never ending task: bring foreigners to events, and bingo you have yourself a little cult within a cult. One girl defended Mannam by saying, I've been volunteering for two years and they never mentioned religion." Lady, if you've been volunteering for them for two years, they don't need to mention religion. They already have you.

I just read this comment from a guy (although I'm not 100% sure he's being serious?) who described Mannam as his family:
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If this cult pays us, then we have to obey it but they dont pay us and we dont pay as well. Mannam is mannam. Come join the fun. Be a family with us.

They don't require money (yet). And that may or may not come later. What they want is your time and attendance, and unless you were kidding, they have it. And more if you're speaking of Mannam as your family.

One goal of the recent huge recruitment drive targeting expats is obviously to get as many people as possible to The World Peace Initiative Event, an event described to me in person as one of the biggest and most important Mannam events ever. You wouldn't know it from the site though, just the one small Mannam logo. The smallest logo in fact. In start contrast to Mannam events and sites where Mannam slogans and banners are .. well... everywhere, and quite big.

Here's an invitation to the event:
http://www.waygook.org/index.php/topic,41887.0.html

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Hello! I am a volunteer from the non-profit organization MANNAM,

On September 16th we invite foreigners to our festival, which we hold once or twice a year. We will arrange  transportation, food and t-shirts, everything for free.

So if you want to join please contact us, send a message to 010-7164-3381. State your name, nationality, area of residence, email and your t-shirt size and we will get back to you.

Don't miss this opportunity, it will be one of the best times of your life.

This free offer is available to the first 20.000 applicants.

MANNAM is a organization has 100 000 members and have economical supporters. We do volunteer work to support national and govermental events and activities, and we do it by our selves for the purpose of making a brighter world.

Update: Korea bridge has a similar add that says transport and T-shirts for 2,000, not 20,000 which is pretty insane.
But is that 2,000 in addition to the Daegu ad? Guess it doesn't matter. Just worth noting they want you there.

Free transport and free T-shirts for 2,000 people? How much is that costing? Not as much as 20,000 admittedly, but still a lot. And wow what a wonderful photo op for Mannam. I asked the poster what's on the T-shirts, but no answer yet. Unfortunately I'll be out of the country that weekend, but I know a few people going and there will be no shortage of accounts. I think an appearance by Man Hee Lee is a given.

Mannam says on its site that volunteering shouldn't be done to make yourself knowm, but to better the community. Not a direct quote, but you get the idea.
Nice sentiment, but sometimes the urge to name a day after ourselves just can't be resisted:


I heard one account from a person who participated in an event and was told to put back on her free Mannam apparel after she had dared to take it off. How ungrateful! And badges were distributed at the event I went to. Granted there was no pressure to put them on, well a little perhaps. A nice girl gives you a badge, others put them on. And really, there's not much else you can do it with it other than bin it. And even if no one wore their badge, obviously Mannam hoped they would. And wearing the same apparel does help create a bonding environment. It can certainly help nudge along a group mindset. Compliance is accomplished in small steps. All these little things when added up can result in an attachment and reliance on the group you didn't quite see coming.

The event was free, as were the buses that took us there, which was nice. But I can't imagine it was for our benefit. I suspect they wanted people walking around with Mannam badges so their large video camera on the big crane would have something to zoom in on. And our attendance gave the Korean members something to do.

The Mannam cult - a volunteerism cult. Why not? it's a great way to attract the young and idealistic. And again it seems to encroach on lives more and more. I'm thinking more of the Koreans I've met. There does seem to be a cultic aspect to their allegiance to Mannam. I just can't see them socializing and enjoying non-Mannam events. Or even contemplating going actually. Mannam seems to be an enormous part of their lives, the only part when it comes to organizing events for their foreign friends. I wonder if those friendships are conditional?

Events do sound like decent volunteering gigs seem to be all photo opportunities. That isn't to say they don't do good (I regret typing that), just that that isn't Mannam's main goal. And the ulterior motive is sinister. And do they do good? A trip to an orphanage to teach kids Mannam slogans?


An exaggeration perhaps, but again based on accounts of people who went and never returned:

Arrive at orphanage. Tell orphans how great Mannam is. Teach them some Mannam slogans (especially "When light meets light, there is victory!" which is my favorite). Put up big Mannam banner. Distribute free Mannam T-shirts to volunteers. Stick Mannam badges on kids. Take photo of banner. Leave. Upload photos.

And what's with the sweatshirts? I hope funds for the orphanage trip weren't spent on clothing for the volunteers when it could have gone to the orphanage (books, toys, food) etc. But hey, maybe the volunteers bought the clothing themselves? Brilliant win/win there for the cult. But I don't know. I just know that picture gives me the creeps.

Now let's take a look at the honorary chairman of Mannam, the adorable and always smiling Man Hee Lee. Mannam says on its site that religious activities are forbidden at Mannam events so it is kind of strange they chose a guy who claims to be the messiah as "honorary president". At the meeting did no one raise their hands and say "I'm sorry, but that's a really stupid idea." Could they not find a suitable candidate who didn't think he was Jesus? Or was Mannam Lee's idea from the beginning? Which is more likely?


 Very interesting sharing of language which we would expect to see if Lee's role was more than an honorary one and they weren't very good at hiding it.

Not much healing going on here unless healing nations involves labeling all critics "antichrist destroyers". To be anti-Man Hee Lee is to be anti-Christ. We can reduce that equation to Man Hee Lee = Christ. Not a very healing or forgiving notion. And just the kind of doctrine that breaks families apart. A parent concerned about their child's involvement is quickly cast as the devil. For child/young adult under the influence of the cult, home suddenly becomes a scary place to be. Life with Jesus/Man Hee Lee is safer.
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From that site: http://www.worldopenseminar.com/html/about.html



Man Hee Lee in America, July 2012

The following link is a great example of how things can go wrong when a devoted cult member tries to sell their cult to an outsider with decent built-in bullshit detector:
http://www.orangejuiceblog.com/2012/07/anyone-who-is-a-believer-will-regret-it-if-he-or-she-does-not-come-see-instructor-manhee-lee-at-the-crystal-cathedral-this-saturday/

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So, his press girl called and asked me to do a write-up here, obviously hoping the great event would get that coveted “Orange Juice Bump.”  She explained that Man Hee teaches that the world has already ended – long ago – and that we are now all in the afterlife.  She said this would make a lot more sense once I hear Man Hee explain it in person.  Then she begged me, whatever I write, to “Please treat Man Hee with respect.”

Mistake.

“I’m sorry, young lady, you called the wrong blog.  We don’t do the respect thing here.”

“Well, then, please don’t write anything about him at all.”

“Sorry.  Too late.”  Click.

Cultic Aspects:
1) Leader with special unique knowledge.
2) Very averse to any potential negative publicity. Aren't we all? But it drives cults particularly nuts.

Press Release: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B7jGThCKKGZYQkdEYVJHLUNCRUU/edit?pli=1#
Photos: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B7jGThCKKGZYNDZnQk42WHp3TjA/edit
http://www.yorkblog.com/faith/2012/07/18/man-hee-lee-in-america/

http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/stories-faith/2012/jul/31/Lee/

A short news report. A little glimpse into his ideas about the upcoming end of the world.


Member Blog: http://shinchonjiunmasked.wordpress.com/
Which is a good example of a guy who thinks he's defending cult allegations, but really he isn't. Creepy stuff.

Wikpedia: Mostly propaganda posted by cult members
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Man-Hee

Critical Website: http://shinchonjiandthebible.blogspot.kr/
Features lots of information and questions for cult members that I'm sure go unanswered.
Of interest is this summary of the groupsLee was involved with before becoming Korean Messiah No. 8750. It seems he wasn't always the Messiah.

Student article about Shinchonji entitled "Warning on Cults" on page 3 of this PDF file from Handong Global University. (No longer online, and I can't find where I saved it. Quoted below:

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Shin-chen-ji “lures believers” by ‘sending harvesters,’ to existing churches, generally through Bible study activities. Its target is mainly college students or young adults in their twenties. As their evangelistic gargets, Shin-chen-ji excludes senior citizens, physically handicapped persons, and graduates from seminaries as well as poor people. Another characteristic of Shin-chen-ji is that it has a lot of fake names. Instead of using only one name, more than 45 names have been used to identify their churches. In
addition, more than 40 academic terms, such as names for academic institutions, seminaries, or even missionary institutions are also used to lure believers. The ultimate goal is to have 144,000 believers in Shin-chen-ji to serve as priests.

Critical Sites in Korean:
http://www.ilbe.com/112464092 summary of PD수첩(MBC)
http://cafe.naver.com/soscj/545 anti-신천지 christian site
http://antiscj.cbs.co.kr/ anti-신천지 CBS(christian Broadcasting System)
http://cafe.naver.com/scjout/ site of 신천지 victims

Experiences at Korean Independence Day and Crown Man Hee Lee Honorary President of Mannam Day, August 15, 2011

An excellent and brave essay by a Korean university student. A must read for... everyone:
http://www.englishforums.com/English/ThisEssayDraftLook/qlmrp/post.htm

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They prepared a great variety of events: experiencing torture, making Korean traditional paper, watching a laser show and so forth.

That's right, one of the activities was experiencing torture (photo from threewisemonkeys article above)


Reenactments of the tortures committed by the Japanese during the colonial rule. No mention of the tortures being committed today in North Korea.

And wouldn't that make a Japanese person feel uncomfortable? Strange that an organization striving for world peace would think of such an activity. Not the kind of thing that I imagine would help in the healing of old war wounds. And they do realize this kind of torture goes on today in North Korea, right? Or is it only a crime when the Japanese do it 60 years in the past? It reeks of extreme nationalism. Let's all imagine the happy day the Koreas finally unite under Man Hee Lee, the savior of the universe. Would the Northerners be better or worse off I wonder.

From this article.
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Pastor Lee apparently feels that when North Koreans and South Koreans make their desires strongly enough felt by their respective governments, this could lead to a bloodless reunification of the Korean peninsula, in a way somewhat similar to the German experience.

Is that all the North Koreans need to do to break free from the tyranny? State their desires more strongly? That could lead to a bloodless reunification in bizarro world. In this world it would only lead to further overcrowding of the concentration camps.

A Korean news report, admittedly by a station with a Christian slant, but their report is consistent with the above two accounts. And the station's JMS reports are spot on.


English translation is available here.
The content itself isn't anything new, Mannam = Shinchonjin etc, but there's some interesting exchanges in the comments.

Random thoughts / first experiences...
If you're a foreigner living in Korea with a Facebook account, there's a good chance you've seen members of Mannam Volunteer Association posting invitations to events they hold. I was approached by some members via Facebook who were interested in any thoughts or ideas I might have to help Mannam help the foreign community in Daegu. They gave me a brief description of their organisation and gave me a brochure. I had looked at their websites briefly before meeting them...

Having spent almost ten years now on this site dedicated primarily to the JMS cult, I immediately saw similarities to front groups operated by JMS, the Moonies, and other cults.  While the members and Mannam sites claimed Mannam was a totally secular organisation, I was skeptical. I don't want to go around assuming every group I encounter in Korea is a cult, but I'd be lying if I didn't say that word popped into my mind a lot while exploring a couple of their websites. It just seemed to me to be a good example of a cult front group. But which cult?

According to their fundamental principles, the group forbids political or religious activities.

I asked the member about that and told them that when I first looked at the site I thought it was associated with a religious organisation. The members were surprised, and I felt they were being 100% sincere when they said they weren't (turns out they weren't being sincere at all). Of course that isn't to say I believed them, just that I felt that they were sincere in their belief that Mannam wasn't part of any organised religion. One very insidious aspect of cults is that they deceive members who then go out and spread the word. In their minds they aren't lying and really they aren't. They simply repeat lies that they, through various techniques, were "helped" into believing. So the Mannam member's denial of any religious involvement didn't reduce my suspicions.

But I didn't pursue the matter any further. Work and my other hobbies got in the way, and  soon after that meeting I wrote the following on expatkorea.com:

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Actually to be fair, I really don't know much about them. I did get some weird vibes from the two I met (and their website). Actually one girl was quite nice, but yes she seemed quite devoted to her organization and it seemed to fill up all of her time (unpaid) - she's currently not working or studying - and I found that a little unsettling. I would love to know how much (if any) money their founder is making.

The impression I got was of an organization that holds events to promote itself rather than actually help people as the word volunteer suggests, but again that was a first impression and I haven't looked into it further other than to post here.

And I left the matter alone. And then a few weeks ago I heard the name Man Hee Lee for the first time. I have a Google Alert set up for "Korean Cult" and an alert popped up linking to the articles above concerning his July 2012 visit to America. Another Korean messiah. I was surprised I hadn't heard of him before. Actually I had, but I had just skimmed past his name when I saw it mentioned on the Mannam sites I looked at. I skimmed over it because nothing much was said about him other than he is the honorary chairman of Mannam. And when I read about Mr. Lee in that more recent article, I didn't connect him with Mannam. I must be getting old. But thankfully a friend who goes by the username PaperTiger did. And then I  discovered that a few other people had as well....

September 08, 2012, 11:03:07 AM
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« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2012, 11:03:07 AM »
Man Hee Lee and Shinchonji (신천지):

A fascinating glimpse into material primarily aimed at indoctrinated members:
Quotations and Thoughts on Man Hee Lee's The Creation of Heaven and Earth by Dr. Paul Willis

Experiences with SCJ's Bible Study Course

Official Sites:

www.lightmeetslight.com points to the site below: (It did link to it.. and since this came to light it has been Orwellianly removed.)
http://www.worldopenseminar.com/

That's worth noting because Mannam's slogan is "When light meets light there is victory" whatever that means.

http://www.scjbible.tv/
http://www.scjbible.tv/index.php
http://www.youtube.com/user/godvoice12 Korean language. Godvoice?
http://www.youtube.com/user/healingallnations (English) Healing all nations... except Japan - they don't like Japan.

antichrists destroyers

From that site: http://www.worldopenseminar.com/html/about.html



Member Blog: http://shinchonjiunmasked.wordpress.com/
Which is a good example of a guy who thinks he's defending cult allegations, but really he isn't. Creepy stuff.

Wikpedia: Mostly propaganda posted by cult members
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Man-Hee

Man Hee Lee in America, July 2012

When PR goes wrong:
http://www.orangejuiceblog.com/2012/07/anyone-who-is-a-believer-will-regret-it-if-he-or-she-does-not-come-see-instructor-manhee-lee-at-the-crystal-cathedral-this-saturday/

Press Release: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B7jGThCKKGZYQkdEYVJHLUNCRUU/edit?pli=1#
Photos: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B7jGThCKKGZYNDZnQk42WHp3TjA/edit
http://www.yorkblog.com/faith/2012/07/18/man-hee-lee-in-america/
http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/stories-faith/2012/jul/31/Lee/

Shinchonji Leader Man Hee Lee comes to Bakersfield (신천지 이만희 총회장님)

Critical Website: http://shinchonjiandthebible.blogspot.kr/
Features lots of information and questions for cult members that I'm sure go unanswered.
Of interest is this summary of the groupsLee was involved with before becoming Korean Messiah No. 8750. It seems he wasn't always the Messiah.

A Korean student's article about Shinchonji entitled "Warning on Cults" on page 3 of this PDF file from Handong Global University.




October 08, 2012, 08:13:36 AM
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« Reply #6 on: October 08, 2012, 08:13:36 AM »
Google translation from this Yahoo Groups page for German Shinchonji.

I came across the link on page 41 of this PDF of a German newsletter.

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The people in the world live up to 100 years. They are born and eventually they die. But the children of God, born of God's seed
are to live for ever and there is no parting with them through death. These children are not valuable?

Whoever does not believe, can not be a believer. Jesus sowed the seed of God (Mt 13:24, Mk 4:14), and we also sow the seed of God. Apostle Paul said, he
suffered pangs of birth (Gal 4:19), and he tries to satisfy his children (1 Corinthians 3:2). Also, he called his son Timothy (1 Timothy 1:1-2). Paul was not even
married and he was a man all this, that he suffers pangs of birth or breast feeding the child was meant spiritually. He described his son as a disciple,
which does not mean a carnal son, but a spiritual, by being born of the seed of God. In James 1:18 it is written: Who by the word of truth is born is called the first fruits.

People grieve so much about their dead children or siblings, even though they already knew that they will die some point. Yet no one is above sorrow, though a child of God who is born of the seed of God and can live forever, lost. Is not this a proof that he has no faith as God's family? How can one be so carefree, even though his child was born through suffering the pangs of birth, dies or is lost? He must have a heart of the hireling.

If even a small child is no longer visible, we must do all in effort to find it. We SCJ saints are different from the parishioners of the traditional communities. Because we are all born with the seed of God by suffering the birth pangs. From the first meeting, we have a lot of time and effort for these children to give birth, even while they're Center training that and Training new members have been through. When I see (the master), that such precious children go fall and lost, my heart is breaking. How can I with shame and embarrassment watch the sky? How can someone who is not the Holy care, be a worker of God? I can those who are lost and wandering around somewhere, do not forget. Jesus said: You look for his lost sheep everywhere in the mountains and in the valleys (Mt 18:12-14).

And the father is his son with unreturned hold the best robe, and put a ring on his finger and a feast prepared for him (Luke 15). We need to think about how we now behave. If someone can not see or no reason not to the church comes to the district manager must first take care of him. He must be the right word to convince that he comes back. But if he still does not come, he must visit with the department head to the lost. But even if this does not work, have the church leaders and Cheondosa visit him. If he still will not come to the tribe leader must take care of it. If he still does not come to church, the reason of his absence, including its core Esse and phone number will be forwarded to the head office.

This saint has lost to the kingdom of heaven and eternal life to the chosen faith in SCJ. He learned on Mount Zion, the new song. After graduation, he took part in the training new members. If such does not want to come to church, he must have a reason. If it lacks faith and lack knowledge, we have to visit him and bring him to the knowledge. If it is not possible to visit him at home, we have other ways to find out. We have the best education in the world, namely the revealed word. Why we can not bring him to the knowledge?

The Holy Spirit, the groom with the bride (pastor) along the child conceived. If the child is then not of the Holy Spirit and of his bride? How can we neglect this child? We do the works of God are neither foreigners nor hirelings (laborers). We are the Bride of the Holy Spirit, and we give birth to his children. let it cause us not to sin or someone leaves us. really Let us build God's kingdom. The District Manager must be aware of and be aware of their task they accomplish. Then the grace of God and will of Jesus Christ be with you forever.

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« Reply #7 on: October 22, 2012, 10:47:18 PM »
Some audio from a SCJ Bible lesson that teaches that the rider on the white horse is Jesus combined with footage of Man Hee Lee on his white horse in the middle of Seoul.


December 23, 2012, 12:11:19 AM
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Re: Shinchonji: The Cult of Lee Man-hee (Links & Resources)
« Reply #8 on: December 23, 2012, 12:11:19 AM »
Despite accusations of distortion, Shinchonji keeps on attracting converts

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When Caritas Lee Seung-hye set out on a series of Bible studies with her mother, she was given an interpretation that was very different to the one she remembered from school.

The Holy Spirit came to someone secret, she was told, someone who was not any one of Jesus’ apostles.

This interpretation was provided by Shinchonji, Church of Jesus, the Temple of the Tabernacle of the Testimony (SCJ) a minority religious denomination which typically kicks off with a free Bible course and an exam.

At this stage Caritas had no idea her brother had converted from Catholicism to Shinchonji.

“I tried to find the lies and tricks in Shinchonji to catch my brother out,” says Caritas, who lives in Seoul’s now infamous Gangnam district. “But he refuted my evidence as a test of his faith to Shinchonji and we’re no longer able to talk with one another.”

Since that time, her family has remained divided. Caritas’ brother no longer speaks to her mother either.

Noting its suspect teachings and the damage done to her family, Caritas then became an anti-SCJ campaigner.

Shinchonji, meaning ‘new Heaven and new Earth’ was founded in 1980 by Lee Man-hui, whom followers believe to be the ‘returned Jesus.’

Referencing Revelation (7:2): ‘Then I saw another Angel come up from the East, holding the seal of the living God,’ SCJ claims that ‘the East’ is Korea and that ‘another Angel’ is CSJ founder Lee.

SCJ also toys with Revelation (7:4) in claiming that the 144,000 sealed members of the tribe of the children of Israel are instead the members of Shinchonji which make up the 12 tribes of the group across South Korea. Today, they operate more than 300 mission centers.

Father Paul Han Min-taeg, assistant director of Evangelization and Education at Suwon diocese, says that SCJ is little more than a heretical Christian sect, one of an estimated 40 or so in South Korea.

“It denies the Holy Trinity and deifies its founder Lee, dazing its followers by distorting the prophecies in Revelation,” he says. “With its apocalyptic view, it brainwashes followers and urges them to go out and lure followers in a variety of ways.”

In recent years, the South Korean press, blog postings and confused expatriates writing online have tried to piece together exactly what SCJ represents and how it works. Many have pointed to an affiliation to a group called Mannam, a seemingly non-religious organization with an army of volunteers who typically encourage the uninitiated to take part in trips and activities across the country. Many foreigners have joined in and say they have had a good time without any hint of proselytizing.

Yoo Jung-hoon, who like Caritas is an anti-SCJ campaigner, says that the group also preys on Catholics in the belief that many don’t know the Bible well enough to internally dismiss some of Shinchonji’s more outlandish claims.
“For them, luring Catholics is a piece of cake,” he says.

Veronica Lee Eun-soo, 40, who gave a pseudonym to protect her identity, admits she was one of those easy targets.

“Without any knowledge of the Bible, the teachings in the Shinchonji Bible study looked marvelous and I appreciated this God-given chance,” she says. “While studying there I felt I was a chosen one.”

She says that now, many of SCJ’s claims – that all angels are humans and that the Bible is written in metaphors that only Lee can understand – seem ridiculous.

“But I suddenly came to believe in the ridiculous,” she says.

A Shinchonji official who did not give a name says that SCJ is misunderstood. It has never taught that Lee is Jesus, he added, although many of the SCJ faithful believe that to be the case “as they love him very much.”

“We are people of God of a different denomination, just like Baptists or Methodists," he said. "But some other Christians tell malicious lies against us because more and more Christians are converting to Shinchonji.”

September 26, 2013, 12:33:44 AM
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Re: Shinchonji: The Cult of Lee Man-hee (Links & Resources)
« Reply #9 on: September 26, 2013, 12:33:44 AM »
This thread is still a giant mess... I do hope to edit it at some later date in the not-too-distant future.

In the meantime, I think this is worth saving and this seemed like the most relevant thread:

http://shincheonjiaroma.blogspot.kr/2013/06/man-hee-lee-young-man-story.html

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There was a young man who was born with the light of the heavens.

The name of a young man was 'Man Hee Lee'.
 

Man Hee Lee was born in a farming family in Gyeongbuk Cheongdo, on September 15, 1931, and he was the descendant of royalty from the Joseon Dynasty.

His name was given to him by his grandfather, who had supposedly dreamt of a light emerging from the heavens before Lee was born.

Man Hee Lee was thus  named "Man Hee", which means a complete and perfect light.

While praying, he met a star for three days, and he met a person from the heavens through the guidance of this star. He vowed his loyalty to God with his blood, and began his life of faith.

 While carrying on his life of faith, he returned to his hometown in the countryside and stayed there for the next 7 years.

On the 7th year, he greeted the Lord who came in the midst of the clouds in the heavens, and was guided to the Tabernacle Temple by the words of the Lord’s commands; this was the church he was carrying out his life of faith previously.

As recorded in Rv 2 and 3, he sent letters to urge repentance from the Tabernacle Temple's seven messengers, called “the seven stars,” according to the Lord’s command. But the seven messengers simply ignored him and the content of the letters, and did not accept them.

The young man, who had sent letters as described in Rv 2 and 3, saw and heard this event at the location of fulfillment.
There are three mysteries and three types of plagues in the Book of Revelation. These are the three things that apply to the betrayers, the destroyers, and the savior.

But what should be understood is that these three things are made known only to the promised pastor.

The reality to the fulfillment of the prophecies of Revelation can be seen starting from Rv 1, as the people and their actions appear as the reality to the prophecies.

Let us have faith based on knowledge.  Let us not add to or subtract from Revelation.

This story is Man Hee Lee, the chairman of Shincheonji ;
Jesus who fulfilled the New Testament (Revelation) sent his messenger to the churches to testify (to the revealed word of reality, the fulfillment of Revelation). The messenger who speaks on Jesus’ behalf saw and heard the events of Revelation’s fulfillment where these events took place.

June 06, 2014, 10:37:28 AM
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« Reply #10 on: June 06, 2014, 10:37:28 AM »
Some links related to MBC's 2007 expose on Shinchonji from the cult's perspective

http://correctunderstandingofshinchonji.wordpress.com/2014/05/31/the-lies-of-mbc-pd-notes-distorted-broadcast/
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To all the members of Shinchonji Church of Jesus around the world and to all the souls of the martyrs! Let us appeal to God regarding the false charges leveled against us. MBC PD Note broadcast lies about Shinchonji Church of Jesus.

MBC PD Note broadcast their false program twice: once on May 8, 2007 and again on December 25, 2007. Their show, which was entitled “Shinchonji’s suspicious mysteries,” concluded that Shinchonji is a cult. They attempted to sabotage Shinchonji, which is God’s kingdom of righteousness, by broadcasting false information.

When MBC PD Note interviewed us, we recorded the interviews and kept our own copies. MBC’s broadcast, however, presented a distorted version of reality. In addition to MBC, there are also conversion education pastors blaming us for causing people to run away from their families. They claim that we have confined and assaulted people. The truth is, however, that those were the actions of the conversion educators themselves. We, in Shinchonji, send official statements to our members once or twice per year discouraging them from running away from their families, getting divorced, dropping out of school, or quitting their jobs. We have obeyed these commands ourselves and are speaking out regarding absolute righteousness and fairness.

To reveal how MBC PD Note has distorted the truth, we are even willing to go around and show every Korean household the true footage we took at the same time. We will show both the true and false versions of the footage side by side so people can compare them. Even if the whole world continues to believe the lies of MBC PD Note, lies are still lies. Lies are not truth, and the PD Note programs are lies.

The following is an account of how the current situation began. One former member of Shinchonji was expelled from among us after he betrayed us and committed some serious sins. After leaving Shinchonji, that person united with the conversion education pastors. Together they began to give MBC false information in an effort to tear Shinchonji apart and convert our congregation members to their own churches. Without verifying the authenticity of that information, MBC PD Note immediately broadcast it to the entire nation.

As soon as the false programs were aired, several Christian and social media organizations scrambled to interview people from Shinchonji to verify the details of MBC’s report. Ultimately, those media organizations reported several times that the MBC PD Note broadcast was full of lies. Even the police and prosecutors investigated Shinchonji and never found anything suspicious. In spite of these reports, none of the people responsible for MBC PD Note nor those who gave false information have repented. They continue to resist correcting their programs on air. Although Shinchonji has strength, we would like to resolve this problem justly through the courts, rather than resolving it by force.

One of the most controversial scenes in the MBC PD Note broadcast showed a trip by some Shinchonji members to a park. Shinchonji began at the current location of Seoul Grand Park in Gwacheon, South Korea. The Shinchonji Cultural Department went to that park to record some footage of the cherry blossoms. Should that be a problem? Is it a sin? Why would the park be there if visiting it were a sin? Are all the people who visit the park lambasted for their crimes? In fact, the person who suggested that we record some footage of the cherry blossoms was one of the betrayers who fed false information to MBC. She was very busy encouraging her fellow office workers to pose for the sake of the video footage. No one really thought anything of her going to the park and following her suggestions.

Although the Republic of Korea guarantees the freedom of religion, MBC PD Note broadcast their show about us as if we are urging people to run away from their families. Their report, however, was decidedly false. A few of the many Shinchonji congregation members have been assaulted and confined by their own parents because of their parents’ misunderstandings regarding Shinchonji. Some of these people have indeed left their homes simply because they could no longer bear being assaulted by their own families. If it was wrong for them to leave their homes, should we consider all those who have ever left their homes to enter a monastery or a nunnery as runaways? What about people who left their homes to enter a Buddhist temple to follow Siddhartha? Did they runaway from their homes too? Please answer us, judges and prosecutors! Why do you call this sort of behavior “running away” only when it involves the members of Shinchonji?

If the truth be told, the conversion education pastors provoked the abusive behavior from the parents of Shinchonji’s young adults that forced them to leave home. Those pastors misled the parents into thinking that their children were being held prisoner in hell. This is how conversion pastors have incited parents to force their own children into conversion education. The pastors have induced parents to confine their children at home, to assault them, to force their children to drop out of school, and to quit their jobs. They even encourage parents to send their children to mental institutes if the children refuse to give up their faith and obey. This is why some young adults were forced to run away from their homes. The conversion education pastors are responsible for sabotaging families and for creating hostility between children and their parents.

To the judges overseeing this case! To whom else should we appeal these false charges against us if you do not see this case clearly and exonerate us? We are confident in your ability to reveal the truth. We will not be able to thank you enough if your decision leads to the correction of these lies on the air. We are so angry and frustrated by these lies that we are about to explode. It is as if some thieves who stole something from a house have somehow placed the blame on the owner of the house himself, saying the owner stole it.

One man left a place of abomination and falsehood to join Shinchonji. Later, however, he was expelled from Shinchonji because he sinned out of his own greed and lust for power. Now, he has united with the conversion education pastors in an effort to destroy Shinchonji, which is practicing righteousness and fairness according to God’s will. There is no doubt that his sins will prove to be a heavy burden on him. This person, along with the conversion education pastors, fed false information to MBC’s PD Note in an attempt to convert Shinchonji members to their own churches. The pastors who are responsible for MBC’s false broadcast have sinned, and these sins will be a heavy burden for them. Furthermore, those who believed the false reports, united with the conversion educators, and decided to broadcast lies have also sinned. These sins will not be forgotten.

Another controversial scene from the broadcast surrounds a New Year’s meeting where PD Note claimed that the chairman of Shinchonji was selling people tickets to eternal life. In reality, the chairman of Shinchonji gave some young adults from the church the traditional Korean New Year’s gift of money and a small notebook while exchanging New Year’s greetings. He also wrote down a few short comments with Bible verses inside the notebooks. Some of these well-wishes included the word “eternal life.” Can this be considered selling tickets to eternal life? If wishing for someone to receive eternal life is wrong, then all the Bibles in the world must be destroyed and people must be punished for reading them. What does this have to do with freedom of religion? This is religious persecution. Judges and prosecutors should not violate the law, and we believe firmly that you will bring us justice.

In relation to the report of MBC PD Journal - Dubious Secret of Shinchonji
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To whom concerns Shinchonji as a cult and has misunderstanding
 
Are the 50-minute broadcastings reliable aired twice in May and December 2007?
Here is the truth. It was a totally discriminated and distorted broadcasting.
It was derived from the false pastor and the one who went out of Shinchonji from sinning to damage SCJ and they gave false information on 14 different things and PD Journal broadcasted for two days for 50 minutes each.
Upon the broadcasting, The ministry of Culture and Travel and police department as well as prosecution office had a close investigation on the matter.
The investigation covered from my birth to my hometown, village, workplace, school, church and even the siblings and friends and found nothing coincided with the accusations.

As a result of the investigation of the prosecution department, it was found 'No Charge of Suspicion'
According to the result, PD Journal admitted their discriminated and distorted broadcasting and aired corrected counterargument. The damage that SCJ got from the false broadcasting could never be repayable not even by selling the whole MBC company. This distorted program was broadcasted twice for the duration of 50 minutes each but the correcting announcement was done only with a mere comment for a brief moment so how could people know of the truth behind all this?

Therefore, I decided to write a few words to let the people of the nation know of the real truth, who has been deceived too. My tears are like blood shedding from my eyes bearing the accusations against me.
I pledge before you people of different parts in politics, society and religion to believe the fact that it was found 'No Charge of Suspicion'
The false pastor and PD Journal made people of the nation believe false information which makes people the victim too.
Therefore, SCJ will not tolerate any further malicious spread of the false information based on the MBC PD Jounrnal.

SCJ is the City of the truth, the Church of unprecedented righteousness and the True enlightenment doing all the right things to be the sage king, and doing the utmost active volunteer work in the country and doing its best to achieve the world peace and independence through heavenly culture which has been proven and acknowledged through many events.

Religion is the godly teaching which is the highest knowledge of all and SCJ is with the holy spirit of the truth who mastered the bible.
SCJ is renewing and loving everything regardless of nation, race and religion with the work of God.
SCJ never behaves in a way that causes disharmony leading to a war but working hard towards the world peace and independence of the whole mankind.

Shinchonji Church of Jesus and MBC’s PD Note
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Shinchonji Church of Jesus (SCJ) is different from other churches. The word SCJ preaches is not from men but from God and Jesus (Jn 6:45; Rv 1:-22:). Our church name, Shinchonji Church of Jesus—Temple of the Tabernacle of the Testimony, was prophesied in the Bible (Rv 21:1; Rv 15:5). SCJ is not worn-out and corrupt like the rest of the world’s churches. SCJ has been created by God according to the Bible (Rv 7; Rv 14). SCJ has mastered the Bible and teaches the revealed word clearly (Rv 6; Rv 10) by answering who, when, where, what, why and how (R 1:2; Rv 14:3; Rv 22:16). SCJ members believe and act according to the Bible. This is Shinchonji Church of Jesus. Since we are God’s creation, anyone who tries to harm us will be forced to surrender (Is 54:15). We have repeatedly proposed public debates with the groups who continue to call us a cult without reason, but they have never responded to our requests. They are afraid because they have no evidence to support their arguments. In the end, their refusal to respond to us means they have forfeited and SCJ is victorious after all. They should remember that the Bible says a man is a slave to whatever has mastered him (2 Pt 2:19).

MBC PD note

Last year, the South Korean TV station MBC aired an episode of their program PD Note that was entirely biased and designed to slander SCJ by distorting the truth. Why did they do that? Some people claimed that the government was involved, but this was just a rumor. In fact, the producers of MBC’s PD Note simply trusted the information they received from an informant without doing anything to confirm‍ it. They took everything the informant said at face value and created the program to tell their own story.

This is what we witnessed concerning the MBC PD Note episode about Shinchonji. MBC’s informant was a man named Mr. Shin, who used to be in Shinchonji. He was expelled from Shinchonji for attempting to lead a coup d’état and install himself as the chairman of Shinchonji. Since then, he has united with a group of pastors running conversion education programs designed to destroy Shinchonji convert its members to their denomination. Together, Mr. Shin and the conversion education pastors lied about Shinchonji to the staff of MBC. These people believed their lies because they belong to the same denomination. MBC PD Note created a distorted report about SCJ because they failed to confirm‍ whether their informants were telling the truth. Now, however, the truth has been revealed.

Mr. Shin claims to be a Christian, yet he betrayed Jesus and his word because of his desire to be higher. As part of his failed attempt at seizing control in SCJ, Mr. Shin proclaimed that SCJ congregation members must pray in the name of the SCJ Chairman instead of in Jesus’ name. He also claimed believers must drink the Chairman’s blood instead of the blood of Jesus. Doesn’t this make Mr. Shin the antichrist (1 Jn 2:18-19)? The pastors who have united with Mr. Shin are sending perfectly sane people to be confined at a mental institute until they agree to stop attending SCJ. They have even condoned the actions of a believer who murdered his wife just because she refused to stop attending SCJ and change her denomination.

Thus far, SCJ has not sought vengeance for the sins of this betrayer and the false pastors working with him or for the lies MBC broadcast about SCJ members. We believe in the Lord and are obedient to him. Jesus promised that vengeance belonged to him and he will certainly repay every wrongdoing (Heb 10:30). In fact, even if we were to seek reparations, all of MBC’s assets would be inadequate to because their lies were so great. We in SCJ believe, however, that God will repay them for what they have done.

MBC is a public broadcasting company funded by Korean taxpayers. They have abused their status by spreading lies over the air and encouraging their viewers to believe lies. This is no longer just about SCJ. They have aired false reports about mad cow disease, stem cell research, and others. These reports are harmful to the Korean government and the Korean people. To what laws does MBC adhere? Who ordered them to air unjust and unrighteous reports? If they still have a conscience, they will air full apologies and retractions. They should work to erase all the lies they have spread on the Internet and they should shut down their entire operation with hearts full of repentance.

So many believers have seen the distorted broadcasting of MBC’s PD Note; so many people have listened to the false pastors and the betrayer who left SCJ. Although the courts sided with SCJ, we hope that such a thing will never happen again. God’s victory is SCJ’s victory.

June 23, 2014, 05:45:30 PM
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« Reply #11 on: June 23, 2014, 05:45:30 PM »
An English language blog about SCJ cult which provides information on the allegations made by Korean former members and families of current members: http://shinchonjivaccine.blogspot.kr/