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August 06, 2008, 08:56:32 AM
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London Police Duped Into Supporting Criminal Doomsday Cult?
« on: August 06, 2008, 08:56:32 AM »
A London K-health member was kind (and stupid) enough to post on YouTube footage of several London Met police officers giving Ki Health testimonies:



The only officer to identify himself is Commander Simon Foy (now retired): http://www.theguardian.com/profile/simon-foy

https://twitter.com/simoncfoy

Astounding that the cult would have the gall (credit where it's due) to enlist the police's help with their propaganda and recruitment drives.

I had assumed that Ki-Health gave treatments for free to the London Met, but who knows?
I imagined Ki Health offering their services for free in return for the video testimony.
They wouldn't have made it that obvious: Perhaps the video request came months after the treatments began? Classic cult tactic used to gain compliance. Soften the target up with a gift before making your request.

But now I'm wondering if the treatments were paid for. It's entirely possible, and perhaps more likely than free treatments
It would be very interesting to know if the treatments were paid for with tax payers' money.

One article, ironically from the BBC, on the cult the police endorsed: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/617962.stm
More here: http://jmscult.com/forum/index.php?board=101.0
And http://forum.culteducation.com/read.php?12,60845,page=1

August 08, 2008, 07:40:21 AM
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Re: London Police Duped Into Supporting Criminal Doomsday Cult
« Reply #1 on: August 08, 2008, 07:40:21 AM »
Wow, Kihealth has started removing their progaganda videos. The original video with the police testimonies was just removed by its owner.

Here's a screenshot of the link that until a few hours ago was the original police testimony video:


A little late though, as I've saved every video that I came across.

And thanks to Bartholomow's blog for helping to share the story.

August 09, 2008, 04:20:33 PM
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Re: London Police Duped Into Supporting Criminal Doomsday Cult
« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2008, 04:20:33 PM »
Ki Health International references to Mo Haeng Yong - i.e one of the cults Grandmasters.

Have you seen the references to him aka Mr Big on these sights, if not, do a find on his name - Yong -  will  be enough to take you to the references.
 
http://www.michaelfield.org/tonga3.htm
http://www.asiapac.org.fj/cafepacific/resources/aspac/moonies.html
http://www.micsem.org/pubs/counselor/frames/sushumdevfr.htm

Building of massive Casino's isn't what one would expect of a spiritual leaders.




August 10, 2008, 09:59:34 PM
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Re: London Police Duped Into Supporting Criminal Doomsday Cult
« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2008, 09:59:34 PM »

http://www.asiapac.org.fj/cafepacific/resources/aspac/moonies.html


Wow, thanks for that Kuki. I'll just copy and paste the relevant sentence from the Moonie article as it states his full name, definitely the same guy.
That's a connection that could have easily been missed, thanks very much.
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Doomsday cult leader Mo Haeng Yong over several years regularly visited the Marshalls and promised to build a six billion dollar gambling resort there. He instead ended up in a Korean jail for fraud.
And from your third link:
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The idea is not new; as early as 1983 investors proposed an offshore gambling resort on Pohnpei. In recent years several new proposals have surfaced. In the light of the recent economic crisis in Korea, one newspaper report of a Korean development proposal sounds utterly ludicrous, but it certainly is an example of "going big." According to the Marshall Islands Journal, Haeng Yong Mo, named by the RMI government as honorary consul in South Korea and called "Mr. Big" in Majuro, heads a joint venture, Marshalls Development Ltd., promoting a $6 billion plan to build world-class resorts on Arno, Mili and Majuro. The project would be completed in 2000, said Honorary Consul Mo, so that tourists to the Olympic Games in Australia would visit the Marshalls on their return home (Marshall Islands Journal, Oct 10, 1997).

August 12, 2008, 04:51:21 AM
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Re: London Police Duped Into Supporting Criminal Doomsday Cult
« Reply #4 on: August 12, 2008, 04:51:21 AM »
I just noticed a few more testimonies on youtube have been removed by Ki Health. I do have them all saved and will be posting them later in the week.
I think they're a wonderful educational tool showing just how easily it is to fall for a cult. If Scotland Yard can be duped by a cult, anyone can.

A little more about the Kihealth's work with the police can be found here
Funny that they removed the video from that page, but not the written material, anyway here it is:


    Metropolitan Police
    From 2006 until March 2008, Ki Health supported Metropolitan Police Officers including those taking 999 calls with regular Ki Treatments.

    During this time:

        * * A total of 1,996 Ki Treatments were given to 1,033 staff.

        * * Of those who had a treatment a total of 92% felt an
          immediate improvement in their symptoms

        * * Almost 50% of officers and communications staff said they felt stressed, but 73% said they felt more relaxed after their first Ki Treatment

Of interest there are the dates given: 2006 to March 2008. If their relationship with the police was so successful, why did it stop?

I also wonder when the video showing Simon Foy was made. I found some more recent photos of him that show him looking a fair bit older.
Maybe not an important point, but I'm just curious. I would have guessed before 2006.
And lastly, here are some written testimonies that have since been removed from Kihealth.org.

CCC = London Met. Police's Central Communication Command.

    I have been suffering from sciatica for a few weeks prior to my last treatment. It seemed to disappear almost straight away after treatment and has not returned since. I have only had two treatments and Im sure that my improvement has been due to Ki Health.  Andrea, Duty Officer, CCC

    I had a problem with my neck after a strained it a year ago. I had chiropractic treatment and it helped but the symptoms soon returned. The ache is dull constant ache which stopped me from sleeping sometimes and its annoyance. I would grade the ache as seven from ten being the worst. I also think it affected my posture. Several days after my first treatment a month ago, I felt relaxed and hardly notice the pain. Just recently its started to be noticeable again just on time for my second session. I feel light and relaxed and my neck head and shoulders dont hurt and ache at all.  Emily, Civil Servant, CCC

    Before the treatment I did suffer digestive problems and was a little depressed. After the treatment, my digestive problems have improved and even my attitude, I do not feel as depressed and am more positive.  Maxine, Communication officer, CCC

    I have suffered from hay fever and allergies for as long as I can remember.
    About seven years ago I underwent a course of acupuncture which alleviated the symptoms for about three years however the symptoms nave since come back - watery eyes, running nose and sneezing constantly. I had my first Ki treatment a month ago and it immediately lessened my allergies so much so that I halved my medication.
    Fantastic. It works. Second treatment please.  Carol, Duty Officer, CCC







December 08, 2014, 11:20:24 AM
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Re: London Police Duped Into Supporting Criminal Doomsday Cult?
« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2014, 11:20:24 AM »
Wow, I brought this up on a forum dedicated to exploring policing in the UK and received one of the swiftest and most baffling bans of my life. It was a most fascinating few days. More to come as I think the interactions I had with mods and my short-lived post will make for interesting reading. Lucky, I saved most of them.
Here's the site:
www.policeuk.com/forum/

Here's my original post and below the final response. I'll post the intervening interactions a little later...
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I'm curious to hear opinions on this video, which was made perhaps around late 2007/early 2008 by members of the London Met. Only one police officer identifies himself by name, and that is Simon Foy who went on to become head of homicide and serious crimes at Scotland Yard. I've tried on more than several occasions to get a response from the Met and from Simon himself about the video, how it came about, if endorsing a group in uniform breaks any rules, and when and if the police discovered they had been used by one of Korea's most ruthless criminal cults. No responses.
 
First up, articles about the group in question:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/618064.stm
http://english.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2000/07/09/2000070961397.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/2695637/Alternative-health-centre-accused-of-brainwashing.html
http://www.cultnews.com/2013/01/family-of-deceased-british-army-officer-calls-for-investigation-of-cult/
 
And the video, which was used by the cult's UK front group to help ease the suspicions of new recruits/victims:
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKP68wKq2w8
 
Thoughts?
Surely, this is quite scandalous.
 
I realize it was a while ago, but I heard from a former member the video endorsements by the MET and Simon Foy were used quite recently as part of the indoctrination process.
 
I'm not suggesting corruption, more gullibility and stupidity in endorsing a group they obviously didn't research. And surely there are rules against endorsing an organisation in uniform??
 
Thanks, I would really appreciate the thoughts of current and former officers. And Simon Foy if he's here.

Well, I certainly got a response :)