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December 20, 2007, 07:52:13 PM
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Prem Rawat - Brief Intro & Critical Sites
« on: December 20, 2007, 07:52:13 PM »
A friend just made me aware of this guy...

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Given our last conversation, I thought you might be interested in investigating this guy, Prem Pal Singh Rawat (aka Balyogeshwar aka Guru Maharaj Ji aka Maharaj aka Lord of the Universe).

http://www.prem-rawat-maharaji.info/

He's worth untold millions now - has jets, cars and mansions all over the world - all donated by his followers who think he's God.

That's a great site she mentioned.  This page makes an excellent case for him being the leader of a cult, but if he's calling himself "Lord of the Universe" it seems obvious to me something dodgy is going down... unless he really is Lord of the Universe :(

I'll quote a section from that page I like:

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The Singer Criteria of Coercive Thought Reform

The operation of Elan Vital is an apparently a very relaxed affair, it does not promote itself aggressively, it does not send its supporters onto the streets to proselytise or preach, indeed its main recruiting process is through personal recommendation - Prem Rawat's followers are encouraged to target family and friends for 'introduction' to Prem Rawat's message. The use of Coercive Thought Reform in that 'introduction' is subtle but nevertheless it is evident.

1. Step Changes : Individuals are introduced to the concept of Prem Rawat and his 'Knowledge' via the personal approach of existing followers in social or work environments. The individual is encouraged to accompany the follower to a video, satellite or public presentation by Prem Rawat. There is a gradual affirmation that Prem Rawat is 'special' and that the 'gift' he has to offer is 'special.

2. Control of Time: Those who become engaged in the 'social' experience of Elan Vital, are then encouraged to spend time concentrating on Prem Rawat's personal message - this has recently been formalised into a system of Keys, which comprise over 100 hours of DVD presentation which those who wish to seek initiation into the meditation, must watch before they are considered 'ready'.

3. Replacing Social Support: The volume of time demanded by the preparation process - watching videos, and the social replacement provided by the company of premies removes the aspirant from existing support processes making them dependent upon the Elan Vital culture.

4. Manipulation of Experience: Whilst Prem Rawat is currently ambiguous in his instruction on how much an initiate should meditate, in the past prolonged meditational sessions were recommended, indeed the 'breath' technique was suggested to be perpetually practised. Such prolonged meditation undoubtedly served to "inhibit behaviour that reflects the person's former social identity" and clearly fulfilled Singer's criterion. For individuals experiencing emotional fragility what serves as 'prolonged' in Singer's terminology becomes an acute question and single 'daily' hour long meditations may profoundly affect an initiate's ability to maintain their former social identity, making them vulnerable to manipulation.

5. Belonging: Group approval within Elan Vital is subtle but certainly present and demonstrating an understanding and acceptance of the group's beliefs is rewarded with approval, while questioning, expressing doubts or criticising are met with explicit disapproval, and possible rejection. Indeed Prem Rawat instructs his followers that they must not 'doubt'.

6. Power of the Leader: The whole philosophy underpinning Elan Vital is based on a closed system of logic which itself is dependent on the authoritarian role of Prem Rawat. Structures which permit feedback are absent from Elan Vital and modifications to the organization are unachievable without explicit executive order from Prem Rawat. Elan Vital has an unalterable pyrimidic structure with Prem Rawat irreplaceable at the apex. Only those who accept this unalterable 'reality' are accepted within the organization.

Against the test of the Singer criteria, it is clear that Coercive Thought Reform is an integral part of the operation of Elan Vital.



Here is a forum for ex-members:
http://www.ex-premie.org/pages/preforum.htm

And here is the leader's Wikipedia page, which gives a very positive account of him.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prem_Rawat

The positive outlook is explained on the corrosponding discussion page where we see efforts by followers to delete anything critical.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Prem_Rawat

A quote from my friend about the above wiki debates and an interesting little Moonies reference:

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There's an interesting straw man debate going on on that Wiki Talk page.

The followers are saying that he doesn't say that he's God. What he actually does say, these days, is that Guru is greater than God, and guess who is the Guru? Yup...old Rawat himself.

But before he started saying that, back in the Seventies, he was always saying that he was God, or Lord of the Universe. Then in 1981, the Daily Mail (UK paper) took the Moonies to court over their breaking up families and brainwashing followers.  I was working for one of Rawat's highly placed flunkeys at the time, a guy who lived in the Albany in St James's and who controlled his Swiss bank accounts. He had a top QC in that court every day, just observing and reporting back on the case. When the Moonies lost, Rawat had all the cult magazines and other  materials where he was going off at the mouth about being God rescinded, and burned. One of them was a hagiographic book actually called Lord of the Universe.

I had a quick look on youtube and saw that there are lots of supportive videos.

Here's one in which a follower recounts meeting the then 13 year old guru:

[youtube=425,350]tEAh_U45UNc[/youtube]

January 28, 2018, 08:03:47 PM
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Re: Prem Rawat - Brief Intro & Critical Sites
« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2018, 08:03:47 PM »
Found some websites ran by followers of Prem Rawat: https://www.premrawat.com, https://www.wopg.org, www.tprf.org, https://www.timelesstoday.com, and http://theypi.net/.

Found two websites where people can order the Keys, basically videos of Prem Rawat talking: http://www.orderthekeys.org/ and http://www.ukkeys.org.uk/

More websites ran by followers are: premrawat-japan.com, https://hdsk.org.uk/index.htmlhttps://ivorysrock.foundation/ (which also has a FB page: https://www.facebook.com/IvoryRockFoundation) and http://www.wordsof.net/ as well as http://floridaconnect.net/ and http://one-reality.net/ (which aims to counter critics of Prem Rawat).

Another website is: https://kifubon.com/ which aims to give children Prem Rawat's books. Found another website for followers of Prem Rawat in London: http://www.peacetalkslondon.org.uk/

Found a website for followers of Prem Rawat in the Netherlands: https://enjoyinglife.nl/ and a website that hosts events for followers of Prem Rawat: http://www.celebrate-life.co.uk/

Found a website for followers of Prem Rawat in North California: http://www.peaceispossiblenc.org/ Found a website about a movie that advertises Prem Rawat's programs:  http://insidepeacemovie.com/

Found a website offering Rawat's art: https://www.rawatcreations.com/discover-home.html . Also found an app for Prem Rawat's speeches on Google Play: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.app.timelesstoday

EDIT: Found a Spanish website for Prem Rawat's followers: http://www.lapazesposible.org/ . Found a Sweden website for his followers: http://inspirationsforum.se/ . Found a website for followers in France:  http://www.parolesdepaix.fr/

Found a website for followers in Taiwan: http://www.insight.org.tw/ . Found a website for followers in the Netherlands: https://www.altid.nu/ . Found a website for followers in Italy: http://inform-azione.it/

January 30, 2018, 09:19:37 PM
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« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2018, 09:19:37 PM »
Found a Melbourne website for the "Peace Education Program", a program ran by The Prem Rawat Foundation to spread his teachings: http://www.melbournepeaceprogram.com.au/ which also has a FB page: https://www.facebook.com/melbournepeaceprogram/

Found three Prem Rawat websites in Germany: http://initiative-friedenskreis.com/index.html , http://www.sponsors-for-peace.de/ , and https://www.wordsofpeace.de/

Found a Swedish website for the "Peace Education Program": http://pepsverige.se/ . Also found a old blog for followers of Prem Rawat: http://sydneyinfosite.blogspot.co.uk/

Found a FB page for followers of Prem Rawat in Liverpool: https://www.facebook.com/peacepool.uk/ which also has a blog: www.peacepool.blogspot.com

Found Twitter accounts linked to Prem Rawat's followers: https://twitter.com/wopg?lang=en , https://twitter.com/TPRF?lang=en , https://twitter.com/pep_global?lang=en&lang=en , https://twitter.com/rvk_india?lang=en , and https://twitter.com/KeysofPeace

February 14, 2018, 07:29:01 PM
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« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2018, 07:29:01 PM »
Found a online shop for followers of Prem Rawat in India: http://www.rvkproducts.com/ . Found a FB page for followers of Prem Rawat in the UK: https://www.facebook.com/peaceispossibleuk/

February 26, 2018, 01:02:48 PM
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« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2018, 01:02:48 PM »
Found a website for a mailing list for Prem Rawat's followers in the US: http://usinfoconnect.net/ . Found a website for the "Peace Education Program" in Adelaide: http://adelaide-programs.com/

Found a website for followers of Prem Rawat in Brazil: http://contatobrasil.org.br/ and a website for followers of Prem Rawat in Finland: https://www.ajatontanaan.fi/