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March 03, 2007, 09:30:43 AM
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Church of God / Heavenly Mother: Brief Into
« on: March 03, 2007, 09:30:43 AM »
http://ahnsahnghong.tripod.com
http://ahnsahnghong.proboards102.com/index.cgi
http://whoisahnsahnghong.com/blog/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Mission_Society_Church_of_God
http://usa.watv.org/
http://www.watv.org/
http://ahnsahnghong-cult-churchofgod.blogspot.com/


I hadn't heard of this group until a couple of months ago when, just a couple of weeks apart, 2 other English teachers in Korea asked me about them:

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have you heard of the cult--english name: God's Church?  seems one of my student belongs to it and some of the other students are upset and are trying to get her to leave.


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What do you know about this church? They preach that their is a Heavenly mother, they seem to be targeting Foreigners.

Thanks

Then last week I ran into several people evangelizing for this group.
The first was a whole bunch of new freshmen students at Keimyung University who were handing out pamphlets on campus. The brief conversation I had with the students, who were all very nice, didn't do much to allay fears its a destructive cults, and a few comments they made struck me as very cultish.

And then just a couple of days later I was approached rather excitedly by two woman outside a nearby  Homeplus Department Store, the Seong-so one, if you know Deagu.

The brochure the Keimyung students gave me had this website listed:
http://english.watv.org/

This news item from their site is interesting
http://english.watv.org/news/news174.html

I'll copy the whole thing in a separate thread a little later, but for now I'd like to highlight one very bizarre section:

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A pastor from the Church of God said, "They are spreading lies concerning personal information of the Second Coming Christ Ahn Sahng-Hong, who founded the Church of God , and of Zahng Gil-Jah the New Jerusalem Mother. They also claim that the Church of God 's eschatology was proven wrong by Christ Ahn Sahng-Hong's not coming back in 1988 after he died in 1985 even though he had promised to come back. But all these are mere conjecture and slander from their own religious prejudice and exclusivism."


A Korean friend with vast experience with cults gave this description of the group:

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Church of God is founded by a man named Ahn, Sang-hong. He had claimed himself as a Comforter, the Holy Spirit. Yeah a same kind of lunatic just as Jung. Funny thing is the sucker died in late 90's Now Heavenly Mother, Jang, Kill-ja is after him. This cult was kicked out from Seventh Day Adventist, which is another cult. Anyhow, I heard there weren't any sexual problems like JMS. This cult is a big headache for both of Christian churches and SDA.
And Jang-gil-ja was the second wife of Ahn. Anyway, the cult is dangerous, too. But not as much as JMS.

And here's a youtube video (video deleted), and below that the video's description...

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Added: 13 October 2007
A video about Ahnsahnghong and Chung Gil Cha, leaders of the World Mission Society Church of God, a famous Korean Cult which brainwashes people.

They used to operate on my university campus, stealing young girls and brainwashing them. Me and some dudes reported them to the admin and the police came in and kicked them out.

Be careful around these cultists. They seem real friendly and polite, but are very dangerous.


March 10, 2007, 08:44:27 AM
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Re: Church of God / Heavenly Mother: Brief Into
« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2007, 08:44:27 AM »
i know this one. My wife is in it.
Breaking lots of families.

some information about this world mission church of god ahnsahnghong
http://www.ahnsahnghong.info
http://tinyurl.com/ysuzgb
http://wmscog.wordpress.com
http://cog-ash.blogspot.com/
http://brendoman.com/wardwords/2005/11/21/cult#comments



October 26, 2007, 05:11:29 AM
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Re: Church of God / Heavenly Mother: Brief Into
« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2007, 05:11:29 AM »


This news item from their site is interesting
http://english.watv.org/news/news174.html

I'll copy the whole thing in a separate thread a little later,

Ooops I didn't get round to that, luckily its still online, so I'll copy it here:


Recently, the Supreme Court has ruled that some Christian denominations' accusations against the World Mission Society Church of God (Chief Pastor Kim Joo-Cheol) are dishonest criticism with no evidence, but groundless slander based on religious prejudice.

The guilty party, whose surnames are Jeong, Kim, Park and Lee, held rallies in front of the Church of God buildings, holding picket signs which read, "The Church of God preaches a time-limited eschatology, wrecks families, and promotes people to leave homes and get divorced." On November 23 and 24, 2006, the public trial for Jeong, Kim, Park and Lee was held, and the Supreme Court judged that their accusations against the Church of God had no ground, and rejected their appeal.

During the trial, all four men insisted that their accusations were true, submitting materials from magazines such as “Modern Religion” and “Church and Faith,” as well as materials from the Christian Counsel of Korea and the press. They even brought in Pastor Choi, the Head of the Heresy Counsel Office of the Christian Counsel of Korea , as a witness.

However, the District Courts in Seoul and Incheon concluded that the accusations all four men made were from their own religious prejudice. The guilty party hadn't shown any specific materials or objective evidence to support their claim that the Church of God had preached or was still preaching a time-limited eschatology. They only repeated that the Church of God believed in a man as God, kept the Sabbath and the Passover, and wrecked lots of families through its doctrines. Finally, the District Courts concluded that all the accusations of Park, Lee, and Kim were false and that they had defamed the Church of God , and the Supreme Court also rejected their appeal.

In the case of the guilty party whose surname is Jeong, the District Court in Suwon judged that he defamed the Church of God with his false accusations, but declared him not guilty, saying that there was some reason why he had to believe the accusations against the Church of God were true. However, the Supreme Court did not agree with the original judgment of the Suwon District Court, but ruled that the argument of Jeong was groundless. Below is a part of the written decision of Jeong.

“Every following fact is proven to be true: 1) When the wife of Jeong began to attend the Church of God in 1998, he physically abused his wife and intimidated her into not going to the Church. 2) Only for the reason that she went to the Church of God, Jeong committed violence against the Church's members, vandalized the Church's property, and spread lies such as that there was an increase in the number of the husbands who were victimized by the Church, by inserting pamphlets of their false accusations into newspapers as a type of advertisement. But as the Church of God lodged a protest against him, he presented a written apology and a written oath to the Church. 3) However, afterwards he took his wife to the S. church, of which the pastor is J who calls himself a heresy researcher, and forced her to receive an unwanted conversion education from J, and he even confined her in a mental hospital for 85 days. 4) As she didn't change her religion despite all of his attempts, he filed for divorce on December 11, 2001, and she also filed for divorce as a countersuit. Their divorce was completed on June 27, 2002. Now, the Supreme Court concludes that Jeong is the one who has wrecked his family, by forcing his wife to change her religion in extreme ways such as physical abuse, intimidation, and confinement in a mental hospital. There is no evidence that the Church of God or its members encouraged their divorce, or that the doctrines of the Church of God had connection with their divorce. And also there is no objective evidence which can prove his insistence that hundreds of families have been wrecked. Therefore, what Jeong claimed has been proven false.”

With the decision, the Supreme Court annulled the original decision. The written judgment also reads, “Jeong has become a staff of the S. church and taken lead in forcing the members of the Church of God , whom he regards as heretics, to convert, through illegal activities. And Jeong said that he would continue his actions against the Church of God until every lawsuit between the Church, or its members, and him was settled. He spoke the things stated above in public in front of a Church of God building, and many people ? whether they were concerned with the Church of God or not ? became misinformed. In addition, his accusations against the Church of God or its doctrines were unjust criticism. He only made a guess and accused the Church, using slanderous expressions which defamed the Church of God or its members, and made people feel that the Church of God was a group which wrecked families. Therefore, the Supreme Court cannot say that his behavior was only for the benefit of the public.”

As the judgment has proved that some Christian denominations' accusations against the Church of God were false, the ongoing dispute between the Church of God and other denominations, which insisted that the Church of God was heretical, finally ended.

A pastor from the Church of God said, "They are spreading lies concerning personal information of the Second Coming Christ Ahn Sahng-Hong, who founded the Church of God , and of Zahng Gil-Jah the New Jerusalem Mother. They also claim that the Church of God 's eschatology was proven wrong by Christ Ahn Sahng-Hong's not coming back in 1988 after he died in 1985 even though he had promised to come back. But all these are mere conjecture and slander from their own religious prejudice and exclusivism."

Through the judgment of the Supreme Court, it is proven that spreading lies to defame other religious bodies is beyond the freedom of criticism, and even illegal. This judgment is a good example to prevent spreading lies when people make false accusations against other denominations.

March 18, 2013, 08:40:35 PM
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Re: Church of God / Heavenly Mother: Brief Into
« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2013, 08:40:35 PM »
Korean language site (critical): http://cafe.naver.com/tkdghd

A large site run by ex-members: http://www.examiningthewmscog.com/

Another English awareness site: http://encountering-ahnsahnghong.blogspot.kr/

And on it, this interesting interview video:

World Mission Society Church of God exposed: Ex 12 year Missionary Ron Ramos and Steve Hassan on Vimeo

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An apocalyptic group that claims that Mother God is living in Korea. It is relentlessly recruiting new members who are almost instantly baptized. Former members say that they believe the Catholic Church is the anti-christ and that all churches that worship on Sunday are satanic. The group is accused of breaking up marriages and families, encouraging members to drop out of school and abandon their life goals. Also that they break up families.

Children in the group are viewed as a hindrance. Some former members have claimed they were encouraged to have abortions by leaders.

Ron Ramos was the first American installed as a deacon and was made a Missionary in 2005. He went to Korea three times and was an intricate part of the recruitment process in the United States. He and his wife decided to leave in 2011 due to inaccuracies in doctrine, lies that were uncovered, and the growing realization that the WMSCOG is destructive.

September 23, 2013, 11:28:34 PM
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Re: Church of God / Heavenly Mother: Brief Into
« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2013, 11:28:34 PM »
Here's a thread on Rick Ross's forum about the Heavenly Mother. Personally I think my mother is more heavenly than The Heavenly Mother, but I am biased when it comes to my mum. Biased when it comes to cults too if truth be told.

http://forum.culteducation.com/read.php?12,79728,page=1


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« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2017, 11:51:52 PM »
i know this one. My wife is in it.
Breaking lots of families.

some information about this world mission church of god ahnsahnghong
http://www.ahnsahnghong.info
http://tinyurl.com/ysuzgb
http://wmscog.wordpress.com
http://cog-ash.blogspot.com/
http://brendoman.com/wardwords/2005/11/21/cult#comments

Ten years later and most of those are now dead links. The last one is still online and these comments just caught my eye:
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Boohoo, What I said is pure fact. I have 2 family members in this cult. I don’t make this crap up, I don’t have a reason to. The cog has destroyed my family, turned my family members away from everyone they loved, friends & family alike. They have, without a doubt, been brainwashed. Their personalities have changed immensely since joining. They have given up their education and and the prospect of looking to the future and “bettering themselves” since they believe that the “end” is at hand. Claiming “it doesn’t matter anymore.”
How long was your friend involved, a few months at best? Did she make a trip to Korea to meet “mother"? Mine did, and they lied about it to boot. Not to mentioned they lied about joining the cog in the first place. They lied to get another family member to show up at the cog (got him there under false pretenses). I am grateful that he didn’t fall for it. Did your friend threaten you - that you’d never see her again if you didn’t listen to her preaching? Did she hold a lit lighter to you and tell you it would be thousands times worse because you would be going to hell for not joining them at cog? Yes, these things all happened to us as a result of cog.
Yes, there is a certain line of respect when discussing religion, but I draw the line when mine is not respected, especially in my own home and people try to coerse or harass me and mine. I’m glad that your friend woke up and got out of there quickly, you are more fortunate than I am. I have no reason to exaggerate…I’m fighting for my family.

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I have just spent the last couple of hours reading all of the posts on this site, and I’m hoping some ex-COG members can help me. My daughter has recently joined this church and it is tearing our family apart. She is in the process of a divorce and moved in with us, so she could go back to school and have help with the kids. Her boyfriend became involved in this church and she was originally concerned that it was a cult. Her father and I went on vacation and in the span of two weeks, she had gone to the church and become a member. She has now dropped out of college and spends almost all of her time at the church. She is spending less and less time with her kids. She is also going to move out of our house. We have been doing as much research on this church and mind control that we can. We have visited Ted’s site and it has been very helpful. We are looking for ex members of the church in the San Diego Area. She is not going to listen to us. We have considered trying an intervention, however, we don’t think she’ll cooperate. Any advice on how to approach her would be greatly appreciated. Her children are both under the age of four