Sheikh Amin from Multan

[rb]

This guy seems pretty dodgy. He has a Wikipedia page that will probably be deleted soon (or just be forgotten), and there was a post on an Internet forum that was locked and deleted.

I'll put the info here so it exists for people to find..

[rb]

from www.yanabi.com/forum now deleted (names in bold, their post under their names). Date 18-23th January 2007

khan waqar

assalam o aalaikom
i know this namnehad peer (sheikh amin)i was his mureed and he live in shah rokan_e_alam colony multan sharif.his aqeeda is  very bad he claimed that Allah and nabi(pbuh)are in his body any 1 want to see Allah and nabi must he or she become my (sheikh amin)mureed after becoming mureed they can see Allah and nabi(pbuh)in my(amin)body and if any 1 tuch me(amin)is like tuch of Allah.
he claimed that not every kafar became muslim after seeing nabi paak but if any 1 see me will accept islam and will go to janaat.
he claimed that there is only 3 things exists in the universe. No 1 Allah No 2 nabi and No 3 Myself(sheikh amin) And there is nothing more than we 3.
He claimed that anybody read my wazifas dont need to read quran  and namaz.

he claims that his wazifas are more powerful than any orther ibadas.

He told me that sheikh abdul qadir jilani (ra) was a fiction and not reality he never existed and anybody believe in sheikh abdul qadir will become out of islam

He belong from quetta and is from hazara(mongol) tribe and hazaras are mainly shias and he is worse than deobandi wahabis

In my opionion he is murtad,and all muslim should keep away from him
he spent many years in saudia arabia then he tried to settle down in karachi there when people came to know his believes they kicked him out the karachi and now he is in multan sharif and is twisting the mind of the people there
and he is new fitna in islam

Beware of him.

Ali Khan

Brother can you tell me how you became a mureed of this pir and if you have any kind of picture audio etc of him..do you know what his aqeeda is?

khan waqar

i became sheikh amins mureed becouse a friend of mine told me that sheikh amin spent many years in madina shareef and is a true ashiq nabi paak and is a great sufi so  went to see him (shah rokan-e-alam colony multan)there i met him and he gave me some wazifas  and his mureeds were giving me mubarakbad that i have met the sheikh and it is good for me to be his mureed,as i was sure that sheikh amin is a good muslim so i was traped and became his mureed.
but after a few months i find out that sheikh amins aqeeda is not the right one so i left him.what i heard from his mouth is this.
sheikh amin said that Allah is like insan (maz Allah)
2,Allah and nabi both are in my(sheikh amin) body any one tuch me is in fact tuch of Allah (maz allah)
3,Allah need my (sheikh amin)help to ran the univers (maz Allah)
4,nabi (pbuh) ko yeh mokam nahi tha kay jis ki nazar on per pari wo musalman na ban saka likin mugh ko(sheikh amin) yeh darja ha k jis nay mugh ko dekh liya wo musalam ban giya aur janaat lazim ho gee.
5,sheikh abdul qadir jilani ka haqeeqat say taloq nahi jis nay on ko mana wo kafar ha.
6,qadyani ko kafar nahi mana ja sakta kay wo bi klama goo hain,jis nay on ko kafar qarar diya os ka aur os ki olad ka hal bohat bura howa (z.a. bhutto)

7,wahabi deobandis shias are muslims but not bralvis.
im writting what i heard from this pir called sheikh amin and now you can understand what kind of aqeeda he holds

I dont have any of his pictures normally he avoids cameras but where he lives there are hidden cameras everywhere he can hear what others talk he can see what others do by the help of cameras and recording devices he us a very shady type person he have good connections with qadyanis and high offical goverments and foreign support

I let you know what I know for more information kindly ask me

jizak Allah.

Mohammed Shakil

salaam

This is a warning doing bayah to a shaykh is not a normal thing. you need to research the background of the shaykh , his knowledege, the tariqa you are entering, Learn about sufism .

Dont enter in just becuase a friend recommends as his or her needs will not be the same as yours..

For your information ,i am still searching for my murshid.

Allah hafiz

khan waqar

the only good i can c by becoming sheikh amins mureed that is  atleast i have this sharaf to expose him and his bad aqeeda.if there is any 1 can tell me what is silsala-e- adreesia?
becouse this sheetan pir sheikh amin said that he is from silsala-e-adreesia
of north africa.
jizak allah.

Ali Khan

Can you describe to me what he looks like,age etc how long has it been since you went to see him in Multan sharief what does his Mosque look like?

Ahle Sunnah Uprising

Assalamo Alaikum
He does have quite a following in the UK, his name has cropped up many times and i had heard before this that people from UK with Degrees and high level jobs have left everything just to be with sh amin in Multan :s

He also advises all his mureeds to read lots and lots of darood. Although i heard so much praise, my gut instinct was that this guy seems deobandi or bud-aqidah but i thought id leave it till i find out more - Alhamdolillah abhi maloom ho gaya

Ali Khan

wot does his MASJID look like in Multan what is the area called in Multan where he lives

pir mera Meeran Bahu

there are so many dodgy "pirs" around it scares u..its very hard to find a true murshid..u should take a look at dm islam channel..its full off dodgy pirs..makes u sick..its all about money nowadays..astaghfirullah..Allah Tala sab ko hidyat de..

khan waqar

he live in multan city area SHAH ROKAN-E-ALAM COLONY,he has converted his house in to masjid.aur is masjid ka na minar ha aur na hi ghunbad.its more like a big hall.sheikh amin is about 65 year old he is from hazara family(mongol)and hazaras r shias of very bad kind.
sheikh amin ka tariqa yeh ha k jab wo pehly dafa kisi say molaqat karta ha bas yeh kehta k ziyada say ziyada dorood paak pero,this his way to trap.likin bad main jab sheikh amin ko sure ho jata ha k banda os kay jall main aa choka ha phir os kay bad shekh amin apnay asli roop main ata ha.
sheikh amin mutta ko haram nahi manta,mizar per jana haram manta ha,wahabiyon ko bi dorosat manta ha k on ki waja say masjid nabi(pbuh)main shirak band howa.deobandi ki is baat per k omti nabi say amal main bar sakta ha ko dorosat manta ha.he has made some speeches too jis main os nay apnay aqeede kay motaliq kuch nahi explain kiya,bas jab os ki speech son lo to asa hi lagta ha k yeh banda asal musalman ha.europe aur amrica say bohat log jo aksar qadyani hain (with Degrees and high level jobs)sheikh kay mureed ya hamdard hain.aur in logon ka hadaf siraf yeh ha k sunniyon ko sheikh amin kay asar karain.they dont work on wahabis,deobandis or shias only on sunnis.
this sheikh amin is mix of wahabis deobandis shias and qadyanis.he is sheetan and is a fitna type man.

Ali Khan

Yo bro easy now...I was asking you these questions because i wanted to know if you where talking about my Sheikh and you are so stop dissing him....I bet you were listening to his lectures and miss interpreted somethings he said....if you can show me proof of all the things he has supposedly said then its a different thing but its very unlikely SHEIKH SAHAIB has said these things

syed shahbaz

ASSALAM,,,,
GHOUSUL AZAM  WRITES IN HIS BOOK THAT THIS TYPE OF PEERS AR SHAITAN......
AND ONE THING TO SAY FOLLOW "GUNIYAT TU TALIBIN" TO KNOW HOW UR PEER SHOULD BE  TO BCOM MUREED?

Ali Khan

a person can not just believe another just because they say. I need proof that what he is saying about my Shiekh is true, which i think is not

khan waqar

did u read my message what i said is that this sheikh amin did not record any speech which can prove his bad aqeeda to the world,so it is not possible for me to bring the proof u looking for.he exposed his aqeeda when there was no voice recording was on,insh Allah you will come to know the facts on the day of judgment.
what i said is that what i listened from sheikh amin s tunge when i was there at his hujra.i wish if i had the record all what he said.likin jab kisi kay dil per mohar lag jay        then?phir na to proof kaam ata ha.
aap ka wo sheikh ha  have u ever seen him?
have u ever tried to find out what is silsale adreesia?
jis silsale(adressia)ko aap nahi jante os kay sheikh ko kis tarah apna pir bana ha?
pls ask him if he(sheikh amin) is not a hazara(mongol) and is yes then i will ask u to bring any hazara who is sunni?all hazaras are shias but pls bring only 1 hazara who is sunni?
have u ever asked your pir sahib that from which mazhab (maslak)he is ?as far as i know he is ghair moqalid.
pls ask him why he had to ran away from karachi?sheikh amin jab karachi aya tha to apnay naam k sath madni likhta tha jis waja say bohat say sunni log os kay pass aye aur os kay naam (madni)ki waja say sheikh ko sunni jana likin jab log os kay aqeede ko jan gay to phir os ko karachi say chalta kiya.
if sheikh amin was born in shia family(and he was)has he ever made it clear to his mureeds that ,,,,ok ,,,i was born in shia family but now i have become sunni?
brother khan if u r sunni and u have to make sure if ur pir is indeed sunni too.
have u ever asked him that why he lived 20 years in suadiya?i know this too but here it is no use.
now u think me a lair and i know im not ,,now what to do?
pls do me favor and ask ur pir sahib that he must make audio recarded speech in which he must declear that
1,he was born in shia hazara family and now he has converted to Ahalt-e-sunnat wal jamaat
2, He must declare that Nabi and Allah are not in his body
3, He does not come at number three after Allah and Nabi
4, Muttah is haram
5, Qadyanis are non-muslims
6, Sheikh Abdul Qadir Jillani ra was a real person and leader of all the wallis
7, He must reject Wahabism and Deo-Bandism
8, He must expalin what silsila adreesia is all about
9, on what grounds he called brailvis Kaafir
10, why a believer in Guas Pak be called Kaafir
11, he must explain which maslak he follows
12, he should accept that his wazaifs are not the best ibadat.

There are many points he needs to explain but brother if you can bring all these statements from your sheikh then i will stop calling him murtad.
i hope you understand and will reply me as soon as possible.

Ali Khan

silsale(adressia) is sufism Islam Click on link if u dont believe me http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheikh_Amin

khan waqar

but what do u know about this silsale adreesia brother
tell me what in details
kisi qadri say daryafat kro k aap ka qadri silsale kiya ha     then he(qadri)will tell u what qadri silsale is all about, history of it,name the leader of it,tariqaet of it,and many more.
this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheikh_Amin          is a jews made site so u bring it to prove that your sheikh silsale adreesia?
why dont u bring any islamic website where i can about this ADREESIA?
well again pls tell me what u know about this ADREESIA?
u dont even know what this silsale adreesia is all about,
it it the the muslims silsala or only ur sheikh sahibs silsala?
ok r u sure ur sheikh sahib is sunni muslim?

pls let me know pls pls pls.


IS THERE ANY ISLAMI BROTHER OR SISTER CAN HELP ME WHAT THIS SILSALE ADREESIA IS ?

HELP ME   PLS PLS

khan waqar

OK BROTHER TELL ME

IF SOME 1 CLAIM THAT   ALLAH AND NABI BOTH ARE IN MY BODY AND TUCH OF ME IS TUCH OF ALLAH  (MAZ ALLAH)

will u call him a muslim or not?

if u say no then ur sheikh is not muslim.

khan waqar

even wahabis accepts that sheikh abdul jilani(ra) was a real person and was a great sufi,shias dont like sheikh jilani(ra)becouse he used to call shias are fitna and the killers of ahle bait,if ur pir is sunni why then he dont accept sheikh jilani(ra)??
pls open ur mind and eyes pls pls

sherkhan khan

i heard that folowers of sheikh amin meet in hounslow for a mehfil.i will try to get in touch with this brothrs maybe they can enlighten us more about silsila idrisia

khan waqar

main abhi tak apnay sawalat kay jawabat ka intazar kar raha hon.na to sheikh amin sahib jawab day sakta ha aur na kohi aur.
trust me brother this man is not a muslim come out from his sheetani piri
and if u love Allah paak and Mohammad (pbuh) study islam and u will come to know that ahle sonaat wa jamet is the only real islam .

((Can't find page 2 for now, skip to page 3))

khan waqar

dr sahib i cant understand that u got so angry?
is it a sin to ask the aqeeda of your pir?
is it haram to ask if ur pir is sunni,shia ,wahabi or qadyani?
ok i make more easy for u,look im a sunni muslim hanafi
what about mr,sheikh amin is he sunni hanafi ?
im a pathan from mardan living in uk
is mr,amin is punjabi,sindhi,pathan,hazara or what?
im sunni and if u ask me to send any website about ahle sunnet aqaid im going to send u some
1,http://www.deenislam.co.uk/other_links.htm
2,http://www.nooremadinah.net/RazaEMustafa/main.asp
3,http://www.sunnidawateislami.net/index.html
4,www.yanabi.com
5,http://www.dawateislami.net/
6,Sunni Tehreek.com.pk
i can send u more if u like?i only asked u to send me only 1 website where i can read the aqaid of ur pir NOTE, WHERE I CAN FIND A TO Z AQEEDA OF UR PIRs ?
if ur pir is on haq, why cant he openly explain his aqeeda?WHY WHY WHY he is so secret kiya raaz ha is main?
again im waiting for the answers pls pls dont be shy and let us know what i asked.

Ghulame Ghulamaane-Mustafa

Imam Ahmad Raza Khan Brailwy alayhi rahmatur rahman has said that that 4 qualities must exist be in a peer. One of them is that he cannot be peer "by him self". He must take faiz from somewhere to pass it on. So would like to hear where this man gets his faiz from? Who are his 'ulama, his mashaykh, who gave him ijaaza?

These questions are totally permissible to ask, and everyone should ask these questions before giving his hand in someone's hand. So I expect a serious answer.

khan waqar

Attie Hassauriwala and sher ali (amin shaitan's mureed)could not answer my questions.is there any 1 of amin's mureed who can answer on their behalf???

[rb]

Now Wikipedia... critical information first

From someone on IP 203.135.9.115

He has followers but he has more critics, (1. All branches of sufism talk about love and peace between all people but he talks extreamism and rigidity.)(2. All branches of sufism believe in sole God in one way or another but his followers believe that God and Prophet Mohamed(SAW) has dwell in him.) He states "no one will go empty handed from him what ever his intentions may be". His followers believe in him, same as Qadianies believe in Mirza Ahmed.

Sheikh Amin's methods of initiating followers into his rigid discipline include many non-sufi practises.

from someone on IP 62.243.85.91

I would like to tell teh viewers about sheikh amin because what here is stataed is not true. My comments are as following:

-Sheik Amin is not a prominet sufi sheik,hardly less then .1% religious circle pf Pakistan know about him.

-His followers are not more then few hundreds,most of his followers are living in Eurpe and America and his followers have no basic information about Islam.

-Sheikh Amin is mysterious type of person and he never explain what exactly his views are in front of the people.

-He rejects all islamic scholars and sufis including SHEIKH ABDUL QADIR JILANI.

-He claims that he belongs to Idreesia stem of sufism but even his followers do not even know what Idreesia stem is all about.

- Before coming to multan he tried to settle down in Karachi but but he could not put a impression in Karachi, People turned against him ,so he had to leave karachi and settledown in Multan,In multan he remained underground for many years and try to establish his network secretly,now he have few hundred followers and some of them are quite influential.

-He have very few chances to become a well known sufi in Pakistan.

[rb]

Bunch of his followers editing, I won't bother to list IPs. Appears to be cult-worship. These are stuff from or added to the Wikipedia article on Sheikh Amin.

Sheikh Amin is the most prominent sufi Sheikh. He spent most of his time in Saudi Arabia in the past. He is now based in Multan, a town in southern Punjab. His followed are believed to be in many thousands and are on rise. His followers gather at his house in Shah Rukn-i-Alam Colony in Multan, which is converted to a mosque. He belongs to the Idreesia stem of Sufism which originated in North Africa as compared with the Iranian-Indian orders and stems of sufism which have been traditionally popular in Pakistan .

He is one of a kind, no one in the world at this moment could match him in Sufism. A truly great man with vast knowledge of both material and spiritual worlds. A great scholar and religous leader. He has dedicated his life for the love of the noble Prophet of Islam, Muhammad {S.A.W}. Any one in search of the soul of Islam should visit him and find the utmost peace and pleasure from his knowledge and experience. He states " no one will go empty handed from him what ever his intentions may be". Muslims understand the spiritual element of islam from his teachings.

Sheikh Amin's methods of initiating followers into his sufi discipline include the Zikr Khafi or silent recital.

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He loves the Holy Prophet and induces that love in his followers. If one meets or even makes eye contact with him with one's heart perfectly oriented, one could be elevated to the status of Wali-Allah in almost no time. What he has is pure objectivity that cannot be reduced to a subject. It is there to be felt and drunk and lived through--an intoxicating current that runs in the heart and reinvigorates it and also forms a basis for Istakhara moment by moment.

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I am a mureed of sheikh sahab and I can tell you one thing for sure he doesnt want to be known and nor does anybody who is truely for Allah And Aqa gee (pbuh) the others who are trying to gain influence are trying to gain political importance to gain public popularity but not Sheikh Sahab. and by the way the test is not of knowledge but actions not of mind but qalb. Allah bless you brother.

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((From the Wikipedia talk/discussion page))

What is written here is absolutely 100% correct. I have meet with Sheikh Amin in Multan. He is such a NICE MAN, TRUE SCHOLOR, TRUE LOVER OF PROPHET MUHAMMAD (SAL-LAL-LA HO ELAIHAY WASALAM), GREATEST SUFI & WALI OF THIS TIME

You cannot say anything without meeting him.

All my respects & regards are for this Great, Pious & Noble man.

((apparently at least one of his followers are aware that they sound like nutcases, and replied with this:))

Please don't put this on internet. You have to meet Muhtarim Sheikh Saab to understand. No one can understand by reading a little paragraph. I recommend removing this from Wikipedia.

Thank you.

[rb]

A post from Wikipedia

I went to see muhtaram sheikh amin sahib in shah rukan alam colony where he lives but unfortunately sheikh sahib's followers did not allow me to see him only because i did not have any name of his followers as a garanter. Next day i tried my luck again and sheikh sahib's followers asked many questions and asked me to take oath first and then i would be allowed to see sheikh sahib. After waiting i was called to see sheikh sahib and i asked him few questions (1)what is silsale idressia and the history of it? sheikh sahib reply was that silsala idreesia is a RAAZ (secret) don’t ask about it any more. i asked sheikh sahib your follower call you the best sufi sheikh in the world what you say about this claim of your followers? Sheikh sahib then asked me if i have some doubts in my mind about him being a best sufi, before i could say yes or no sheikh sahib said all my murids (followers) are trustworthy and they don’t lie, I am what my murids says. When i asked him about his maslak he got very upset his reply was that any one who read quran, namaz and fulfil other Islamic duties is a Muslim and all who read kalma are Muslim (Allah ne jannat sub mulsalmano ke vaste banai ha aur 73 firkon wali hadis ki ahmiat mulla ke nazdik ha merey nazdik nahe) After that sheikh sahib asked me if i was here to be his murid or to test his knowledge. Then he asked one of his murid to take me out. His murids got very angry on me and one of them beat me with a stick and said “begharat chala ja yahan se ham ne mushkil se tomhari molakat kara di our tum ne sheikh sahib ko naraz kar dia ha”. i don’t know why they all got so mad at me as i did not do any wrong. 1 thing i will must say that sheikh sahib have very long hairs which shariat does not allow and may be still his is the best Sufi? I don’t know but as far as I know a real Sufi will never come in public and declare him self a Sufi, a real Sufi is a humble and a polite man but sheikh amin sahib is very arrogant person a real Sufi always respect shariat and sheikh sahib’s long hairs like women is not the part of shariat I cannot understand if sheikh amin sahib is greatest scholar of our time and if he is then I would like to know if sheikh sahib is author of any Islamic books? Has he ever come to debate with other Islamic scholars? Where he has proved his authority as scholar? Does he have any degree of a scholar from any Islamic university? If sheikh sahib dose not match all this then I will request you all stop calling him a great scholar. we can not call a person scholar after listening to a few cd’s and there is nothing in his cd’s that can show his knowledge like a scholars and sufi. He can not be because he does not care about the sharia and has no respect for hadith (73 firkon) of Prophet Mohammed (saw) Now this for you to decide whether your knowledge allows you to consider him as a sufi. According to your (his murids)statements sheikh amin is not a wahabi, deobandi, brailvi, shia in this case then sheikh amin must explain his beliefs and his way of practice of isalm ?I would like to ask if sheikh sahib follows Hanfi,shafi,malki,hanbali or what?if he does not follow any ,then he must admit that he dose not follow any of them. Why one have to visit him in multan to find out all the facts about sheikh sahib’s cult and even if one gets the chance to meet him and asks any question sheikh amin’s reply is “don’t ask this is a raaz (secret)” The first time I was at his place and his followers were around me asking so many questions and putting pressure On me to join sheikh amin’s cult even a follower named nawaz told me don’t hesitate to join us the moment you join sheikh sahib your statues will be like Sahabi (companion of the prophet) im not sure if sheikh amin has announce his prophet hood yet?but his followers have written him ( SHAIKH MOHAMMAD AMEEN BIN ABDURRAHMAN

               SHEIK SHAIB IS THE GREATEST GOD MESSENGER) http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sheikh_Amin&oldid=103644876

There are many similar comments can be found on wikipedia made by sheikh amin’s followers.one whos name is kasif from daska sent a post in wikipedia with this remarks (I am kashif from Daska and glad to read about our Shekh Sahib .People should know about them.This time he is Siant Of Allah and Imam Of Time mean to say biggest Saint of Allah right now .And no one will come again like Muhtaram Shekh Amin Sahib untill end of time .no one should give any comments untill he meet with Shekh Sahib I like to ask mr kasif how it is possible that no one will come again like sheikh amin untill end of time?is mr sheikh amin is imam mehdi or hazrat issa?dont you know that imam mehdi (as)will come and reappearance of hazrat issa before the end of time? The informations about silsalae idreesia which were again posted on wikipedia after reading it.( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Sheikh_Amin and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheikh_Amin that the founder of idreesia (idris ibn abdulla)was a shiite who escaped from iraq during the rule of haroon rashid and went to live in north afriqa.for further informations click http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idrisids http://216.239.59.104/search?q=cache:TDJZWtaDD8UJ:www.jafariyanews.com/articles/2k6/27july_Shiism_morocco.htm+Idrisid+sufis&hl=da&ct=clnk&cd=7&gl=dk> so mr amin is a sufi of shias based silsala?or this given informations are going to be changed in new post from mr,amin’s followers? Looking forward to hear new hotchpotch from sheikh amin’s cult.


Lala sahib 08:27, 11 May 2007 (UTC)lala sahib–

[mohabbathsahib]

DEAR RB,KHAN WAQAR(REFERENCED BY RB)
You are giving the reference of a post from wikipedia,and all the post by ali khan ,waqar khan, is and the answer of this post is almost the same which is posted by me on JULY 17 2007,(which was nothing except the explanation of hadiths) .except the fews.
Fews are the questions by LALA SAHIB
I would like to know if sheikh sahib is author of any Islamic books? Has he ever come to debate with other Islamic scholars? Where he has proved his authority as scholar? Does he have any degree of a scholar from any Islamic university?
ANSWER IS
As far as I KNOW no book is written by him but i think in no hadith&quran which is the standard of muslims(only) the credibilty of a person could not be measured by the no of books written by him.So calculating the no of books written could be one's own standard of compairing and measurement,but not according to quran&hadith which is standard of all muslims including at least all firqas but not QADIANIS which are strongly hated by SHEIKH AMIN on record of his lectures volumes of which are available.
The answer to second question is in addition to answer of question no 1 that sheikh sahab didnt claim uptill now that he is a big scholar,or simply that he is ONE AND ONLY! Instead of this he usually whenever gives lectures says that ONE & ONLY IS ONLY ALLAH AND AFTER ALLAH AND BY THE POWER OF ALLAH IS HAZRAT MOHAMMAD SAYEDNA S.A.W.W.(proofs of his lectures are present in the form of more than three hundred volumes of his lectures available at several sites)
The answer to third question will be a very new one but on the record,authentic, and can be confirmed by the concern authorities that SHEIKH HAFIZ AMIN BIN MOHAMMAD ABDUREHMAN remained a rigistered Imam of Mosque(masjid) HAZRAT BILAL situated near MASJID NABWI from late seventees to late eightees and also known by the present imam-e- kabas.The answer to the fourth question is also the same one.
HIS FIFTH & SIXTH QUESTIONS ARE                                                                  According to your (his murids)statements sheikh amin is not a wahabi, deobandi, brailvi, shia in this case then sheikh amin must explain his beliefs and his way of practice of isalm ?I would like to ask if sheikh sahib follows Hanfi,shafi,malki,hanbali or what?if he does not follow any ,then he must admit that he dose not follow any of them. Why one have to visit him in multan to find out all the facts about sheikh sahib’s cult and even if one gets the chance to meet him and asks any question sheikh amin’s reply is “don’t ask this is a raaz (secret)” The first time I was at his place and his followers were around me asking so many questions and putting pressure On me to join sheikh amin’s cult even a follower named nawaz told me don’t hesitate to join us the moment you join sheikh sahib your statues will be like Sahabi (companion of the prophet) im not sure if sheikh amin has announce his prophet hood yet?but his followers have written him ( SHAIKH MOHAMMAD AMEEN BIN ABDURRAHMAN                                                                                                                                                                   AND ANSWERS ARE

SHEIKH AMIN'S way of offering prayers is HANAFI.His way of practice islam is  simply including the five elements of islam TAREEQAT which is an acceptable and agreeable way by all ISALAMIC SCHOLARS BELONGING TO ALL FIRQAS.Now you will ask what is TAREEQAT?Tareeqat is a way in which you will have to act upon/follows the way of a spiritual leader but according to QURAN&HADITH.The final destination of TAREEQAT leading by whoever be so is to get the true LOVE OF ALLAH & HIS PROPHET HAZRAT SAYEDNA S.A.W.W. with a true feeling and thats ALL!.Tareeqat was also present at the time of HAZRAT MOHAMMAD SAYEDNA S.A.W.W and also present now in several shapes and at several places and also be present in future (in IMAM MEHDI'S TIME inshallah).Now why he does not claim that he does not belong to any firqa?so my btother! according to hadith"You will not enter the heaven if you will not have IMAN (faith) and your's iman will not be complete if you will not have love among yours"
ACCORDING TO HADITH"Every MUSLIM IS THE brother of every other muslim"
ACCORDING TO HADITH"MUSLIM SHOULD Not turn about/over his other muslim brother"
AND basic definition of muslims is he who believes in allah's oneness and believes that HAZRAT SAYEDNA S.A.W.W. is last prophet of allah.
IN the light of above hadiths according to SHEIKH AMIN'S ON RECORD LECTURES we should not be first shia,sunni,deobandi,Brailwi but first we should Be muslims because not at a single place in hadiths&quran it is stated that you should belong to one of the present firqas and if you would not you will not be A TRUE  MUSLIM,SUFI & SAINT.All muslims including all firqas have one allah and his one last prophet.All of us have one quran and one hadith.So at least we should agree on quran&hadith as per muslim's faith.The points which are not proved by QURAN&HADITH and so are subjected by different views by different ULMAS of different FIRQAS should not be discussed because not doing so i.e. avoiding of discussion on contradictory topic will create hateness in the heart of muslims for each other which is opposite to the above hadith.And discussion in RELIGION ISLAM is also prohibited in hadith according to which"BEFORE YOU MOST OF THE NATION DESTROYED DUE TO  MANY,OFTENLY & USUAL DISCUSSIONS AND QUESTIONS"
Now about his followers
LOOK BROTHER! there is a hell of  difference between a father & his son.A teacher & his student.For the sake of understanding and clearance of one's views about the word "FOLLOWER" i will like to give several example of the prophets HAZRAT IBRAHIM & HIS FATHER.hazrat Ibrahim alaihe salam was a prophet and his father was non-believer.Hazrat nooh ALAIHESALAM was a prophet and his son was MUNAFIQ.    According to HADITH"Love of anything make the lover blind,deaf ".So if u talk about his followers then u should keep in your mind that if anyone in the world loves anyother then offcourse he will praise him,he will express his love in every extreme way in which he can.Because it is proved in hadith.
The second thing when you use the word   "followers". Then you should also know the meanings of the word FOLLOWER.Follower does not mean he who praise his leader or only accept the sayings of his leaders.FOLLOWER is also not the person who does all the work for his leader which a servant do.FOLLOWER is the person who act upon,i repeat ACT UPON the sayings of his follower.First i will suggest that first u will have to find a follower then you can criticise his sayings because then in that case you will have the argument that follower do the same thing which his leader do.So people like NAWAZ  and kashif from DASKA as mentioned by LALA SAHIB are said to be acceptors,supporters or affectioners but not Followers.The simple example is the muslims of nowadays world who are acceptors,lovers,supporters of HAZRAT SAYEDNA MOHAMMAD S.A.W.W. but not FOLLOWERS.
                                                                                         

[mehmood butt]

I have been visiting this forum for some time now.i dont know much about sheikh amin sahib but
The post of rb,waqar khan and others are based on very serious kind of  allegations on sheikh amin sahib.if I was disciple of sheikh amin sahib I would ask him to come and let the world know that you have never claim that Allah and Nabi is in your body.Sheikh abdul qadir jilani is the leader of all the saint.qadyanis are nonmuslims.wahabis,deobandis shias ,goher shahis,parvasi and agha khanis are bad mazhab.his disciple’s status can not be like a sahabi.he never went to journey of mehraj sharif .it is not allowed in islam to performs namaz in bad aqeeda’s musjid.he is not the biggest saint of all.if sheikh amin sahib has long hair like women then he must cut his hairs according to shariya.if sheikh amin sahib is not from hazzaras of quetta then what is his qomiyat?
What is his family back ground?who are his teachers?who gave him permission to give faiz?
If sheikh sahib dose not belong to any sect, then it is the proof of  mr lala sahib post that sheikh amin sahib don’t respect the hadees of 73 sects.the defenders of sheikh amin sahib can not give any reference of hadees  in sheikh sahib’s defence because sheikh sahib don’t accept a true hadees of 73 sects.if sheikh amin sahib is follower of ahmad ibn idris then he can not be hanfi as we all know that ahmad ibn idris was a ghair mokalad and a very close friend of wahabis.
Im sure the debate can be finished.if sheikh amin sahib give his statement about all the allegations on him and sheikh sahib can explain his aqeeda in details.im sure sheikh amin sahib will help us to answer all the allegations very soon. 

[arius]

Syedi Shaikh Amin is a sea of God's anwaar and tajalliyat. To put it more precisely, he is the easiest link in this age to the sea of God's anwaar and tajalliyat (special blessings for God's intimates) in the blessed spirit of the Prophet of Islam, which may be felt by any heart that creates spiritual affinity with him. He induces the most intense love for the Prophet in those who are able to do this. Don't play havoc with your lives by being disrespectful to the greatest lover of the Prophet that I have ever seen. He advises continuous Darood sharif and strict abiding with sharia. He has established centres for zikr in all cities of Pakistan. My advice to those who know him is that do not feed these disrespectful people's egoes by giving any importance to their messages. Just explain your experience of Shaikh Sahib in reply and simply IGNORE THESE BAY-ADABS BAY NASEEB. Burhan

[anwar ali]

AOA to All Muslim .
                     Yah msg main urdu main iss liye likh raha hon k kuch Bhai English nahi samaj saktay aur ager kisi ko yah msg urdu main samaj na aye tu woh muj ko reply kary main us ko English main send kar don ga.
                           
This message to all those brothers who are talking about Sheikh Hafiz Ameen Bin Abdur rehman and saying him a bad man. SO my Sweet Brothers Pahli bat tu yah hai k jahan koi lga howa hai us ko laga rahny do.Dosri bat yah k ager ap ko koi acha nahi laga tu ko bura mat bolo. AIk bat main un bhaiyon say kahna chahon ga jo Sheikh Sahib ko bura bhala kah rahe hain........Main  un ko sirf itna kahon ka k apnay dil main koi sa b question lay kar jao Sheikh sahib k pass aur uther ja kar sirf beth jaye. Allah k Qasam us ko us k question ka jawab mil jaye ga.Ap nahi manay gay....Lakin main ap ko challenge karta hon k aik bar chahe azmanay k liye jao.par jao lazmi.

[anwar ali]

O Mere bhai tum aik dafa Sheikh Sahib k pass jao multan.Un ko azmanay k liye Khuda Qasam tum ko apnay har sawal ka jawab mil jaye ga chahe woh sawal tumary dil k ander hi kyon na ho. Aur han Darood Shareef para karo kasrat say tumara har kam hal ho jaye ga namumkin kaam b.Bus Darood Shareef kasrat say para ko.

[arius]

Here is the link where you can see the Shaikh's name mentioned among the students of Shaikh Muhammad al-Mullah.(See the name among his students from Pakistan.)
http://daralhadith.blogspot.com. Go to this website and search for sheikh amin pakistan. Here is the link which confirms that he is the same person.[url]http://daralhadith.blogspot.com/2008/04/al-ahsa-to-india-sheikh-abu-bakr-al.html
Burhan, shahdra, lahore

[arius]

The Qutbul Aqtab, the Imam, the greatest Ghulam-i-Rasool of this age, Al Shaikh Al Hafiz Syedi Amin bin Abdul Rahman, who lives at 381-A Shah Rukne Alam Colony New Multan, has love for the Last Prophet so intense that it is automatically induced in a person sitting in his company.
The Noor (Reflected Light of God) that is induced in a person's heart in his blessed company forms a basis for istikhara (spiritual guidance) for that person in his day-to-day life. This noor is tauheed's essence in that it provides a source of recognition and negation of the ungodly and affirmation of the Godly throughout life. He would thus not only teach tauhid, but would make one drink on Tauhid if one creates spiritual alignment and affiliation with him to share his spirituality and God's blessings on him.
He has formed circles of silent zikr (halqas) in almost all cities of pakistan, where darood and qul (surah Ikhlaas) are recited on beads on a daily basis.
Everything he says and does is in complete accordance with sharia. Women, for instance, cannot meet him in this physical world and can only keep spiritual contact with him through their male relatives.
He is a Shaikh-i-Kamil, whose blessed company can change a life in a single sitting. A rightly-oriented receptive heart would feel God's blessings on him in the first eye-contact. Anyone who lets his heart come in contact with his, can feel the spiritual power he is blessed with.
It is most likely that people of today may not have seen a more noorani face and personality than Shaikh Amin's on the physical side of the earth. He is charismatic in the purest and most thorough sense of the word and his personality seems to belong to Quroon-i-Oola (the early ages of Islam). He is blessed with a qudrati rang (a natural colour, a pristine originality) in his talk and actions.

Syedi Amin's Shaikh was the famous Hanafi scholar and Idrisi Shaikh of Arabia, Shaikh Muhammad al-Mulla. Syedi Amin was the Imam of a mosque in Medina before coming to Pakistan in the 80s.

Shaikh Amin's sincerity of purpose is evident from the fact that he is working for Silsila Idrisia in a country (Pakistan) where this silsila was not known at all before him. It is one of his karamats that he has been able to spread his silsila in a country where reference to Silsila Idrisia could mean no reference at all as far as general knowledge is concerned.
Silsila Idrisia derives its name from Hazrat Ahmad bin Idris of Morocco and is widespread in the countries of North Africa. I found it categorised as a branch of Silsila Shaazlia in a book.

Here are parts of a biography of Hazrat Ahmad bin Idris that I picked from the net:
Ahmed ibn Idriss al-Hassani al-Araichi al-Fasi; most accounts of him appear by way of a preface lo studies or his pupils. And yet through his teachings, pupils, and family, he was undoubtedly one of the key religious figures of the 19th century Arab Muslim world. Three of his pupils from his immediate circle established major brotherhoods, the Sanussiya, Khatmiya, and Rashidiya, from which stemmed several other orders. Of his descendants one branch established a local dynasty in southern Arabia that survived until 1933 when it was incorporated into the Saudi state.
Yet Ibn Idriss remains an enigma. That he was very influential is beyond doubt; why, is less easy to explain. The explanation must lie in his personality; not so much what he taught, but how he taught it. That, rather than doctrinal originality, best explains the enormous authority he exercised over his students and contemporaries and why established scholars so eagerly sought ijazas from him.
After the usual Quranic studies, Sidi Ahmed went at the age of about 20 to study at the Qarawiyyin mosque school in Fez. There he studied a wide range of subjects under a number of teachers, who included Sidi Mohammed at-Tawdi ibn Souda al-Majidri (or al-Mijaydri) al-Shinqiti, Sidi Abul Mahawib Abdelwahhab Tazi and Abul Qacem al-Wazir. Other teachers referred to in the sources include Abdelkarim Yazghi and Mohammed Tayyeb ibn Kiran (d. 1812).
It was from among the same teachers that Ibn Idriss took his Sufi affiliations; he was initiated into the Khadiriya by al-Tazi and into the Nasiriya Shadhiliya by al-Wazir, while al-Shinqiti taught him the famous prayer attributed to Sidna Ali ibn Abi Talib, al-Hizb al-Sayfi.
Ibn ldriss' teachings; as regards Sufism, (laid) an emphasis on the Prophet (peace and blessing be upon him) as the way to God. He expounded his own distinctively mystical interpretation of the Quran and hadith. Central to his mysticism was the concept of Tariqa Mohammediya, namely that there was only one "way," that of the Prophet, who alone could act as intermediary between the seeker and God. Sidi Ahmed Akish Damidi reports, He, the teacher (at-ustadh) said, "The leaders of this tariqa took their way through intermediaries (bi-wasita), but I took my tariqa from the Messenger (peace and blessing be upon him), without any intermediary; thus my way is the Mohammediya Ahmediya; its beginning and its end is the Mohammedian light."

[arius]

I have removed this post from elsewhere on this forum, so please do not remove it from here, as this is where it belongs

[Peter]

I have removed this post from elsewhere on this forum, so please do not remove it from here, as this is where it belongs

OK, no probelm
I don't have a problem with you posting, it's just posting the exact same post multiple times

[ali ahmad]

I don’t know who amin is? But when I googled his name I found so many interesting
debates on different web sites relating to him and there is some video uploads too in
Sheikh amin’s voice if the video clips are genuine then this man is blasphemer and I read
The debates and I honestly feel the followers of amin totally failed to bring any of the answers
asked by his opponents.
In one of his speech sheikh amin is saying that prophet was not able to understand the spiritual
Knowledge .about this statement of sheikh amin question was put to his followers that bring the
Evident of this from quran and hadees? but till now no one from sheikh amin’s side has given any
Reference of it .muslims are not allowed to narrates quote of prophet with no hadees reference
But it seems that sheikh amin lied upon prophet, which is a very big sin and will lead him to hell fire.again if supporter of sheikh amin can bring the reference of it then sheikh is not a lair?
But im 200% sure they can never bring the reference and they will not answer to the point.
What is being asked here is the reference of the hadees only?
In one of the sheikh amin clip he is saying to worship other than GOD which is undeniable
Shirk in Islam it is strictly forbidden to worship other than God.
I only want to know from his supporter if they can come with the reference of hadees and
I know it very well that if any one lied upon prophet is the dog of hell. Remember prophet himself
Had warned that who ever narrates my quote it is essential for him to bring the reference of it.
I hope sheikh amin’s followers (disciple) will bring the direct reference and will let me know if
It is not shirk to worship other than God? If they failed to bring reference then sure sheikh amin is a
Person who pasted lie upon holy prophet.