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July 29, 2014, 01:16:42 AM
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Third party accounts who were on board the ship
« on: July 29, 2014, 01:16:42 AM »
http://www.dnaindia.com/world/report-south-korea-ferry-disaster-rescued-teens-tell-how-they-were-left-to-escape-sinking-ferry-2005898

Six teenagers who survived South Korea's worst maritime disaster in 44 years told on Monday how classmates helped them float free as water flooded their cabins despite crew instructions to stay put even as their ferry sank, killing more than 300 people.

The teenagers, whose names were withheld to protect their privacy, were giving testimony at the trial of 15 crew members, who face charges ranging from homicide to negligence for abandoning the sinking ship. "We were waiting and, when the water started coming in, the class rep told everyone to put on the life vests ... the door was above our heads, so she said we'll float and go through the door and that's how we came out," one of the teenagers said. "Other kids who got out before us pulled us out."

The ferry Sewol sank on April 16, killing 304 people, as many as 250 of them school children on a field trip. Twelve of their teachers were also killed. The ferry was on a routine trip from the port of Incheon south to Jeju island, carrying students and teachers from the Danwon High School on the outskirts of Seoul as well as other passengers and cargo.

Another of the teenagers told how crew members had told passengers, "specifically the students of Danwon High School", to stay in their cabins. "Water started to fill in and friends helped us move out," the student said.

Others described how coastguard officers waited outside the stricken ferry for passengers to swim out rather than go into the ship to try and rescue them. "They were outside. They pulled us onto boats but they didn't come inside to help," one said. "We said to ourselves, 'why aren't they coming in?'."

"More fishermen than rescuers"

Another student said it appeared there were more fishermen involved in the rescue than coastguard.Like others, she said the crew should be punished severely for their actions. "More than that, I want to know the fundamental reason why my friends had to end up like that," she said.

The six teenage survivors described how there were repeated orders not to move from their cabins. Orders to put on their life vests came much later and without any information about what was happening to the ship as it began to list sharply. They were the first of 75 children who survived due to give evidence in the trial at the Gwangju court, which has been moved to Ansan south of Seoul to accommodate the students.

Five of them gave their evidence facing away from the court. One testified from another room via closed-circuit television.

The crew members on trial, including the captain, have said they thought it was the coast guard's job to evacuate passengers. Video footage of their escape triggered outrage across South Korea. The government of President Park Geun-hye was heavily criticised over the slow and ineffective handling of the rescue operation. Park has vowed to break up the coast guard and streamline rescue operations, which are now split between the police, coast guard and others, into a single national agency.

The disaster also sparked South Korea's biggest manhunt as authorities searched for Yoo Byung-un, the man at the head of a family business that operated the doomed ferry. Yoo's badly decomposed body was only identified last week after it was found by a farmer at an orchard last month.

Earlier on Monday, a close associate of Yoo, a woman identified by police only by her last name of Kim, was arrested after handing herself in. It was believed she helped him elude police after the disaster. Another woman, the wife of Yoo's driver who was thought to have been with him during his final days at large, also turned herself in to police.

Kim's arrest came three days after police stormed an apartment on the outskirts of Seoul and found Yoo's elder son, Dae-gyun, who was wanted for embezzlement. Yoo Dae-gyun was not believed to have been as actively involved in management of the family business as his younger brother, who is believed to be in the United States. He said he only learned of his father's death from police.

Extensive decomposition of Yoo Byung-un's body meant it was not possible to determine the cause of his death despite forensic and DNA tests, authorities said last week.


We definitely should put blame on the ferry company for its actions but the response of the coast guard was just as bad.
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July 29, 2014, 05:33:58 AM
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Re: Third party accounts who were on board the ship
« Reply #1 on: July 29, 2014, 05:33:58 AM »
I recall one article early on that said one problem with the Coast Guard was that it was headed by people who typically didn't have maritime experience, former cops and bureaucrats, etc. I'll try and dig it up. And then the reaction from President Park was to disband it and suggested integrating with the police force.
This isn't that article, but this one quotes President Park talking about the Coast Guard:
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/19/world/asia/south-korean-president-vows-to-disband-coast-guard-over-ferry-sinking.html?_r=0

July 29, 2014, 05:48:03 AM
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« Reply #2 on: July 29, 2014, 05:48:03 AM »
Interestingly very sad. Korean citizens pay taxes to the korean government and they didn't have a properly fitted or trained coast guard? No matter how cowardly the ship crew was the coast guard is suppose to be there to help in these maritime emergencies efficiently. It's so hard to believe with Korea having a lot of boats out and about that they don't have a an "official coast guard". Deflection of attention.
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July 29, 2014, 11:33:30 PM
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« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2014, 11:33:30 PM »
Mr. Yoo's family has to take responsibility for the mismanagement of the Sewol and its improper crews. Who will take responsibility for the mismanagement and bad quality of the coast guards? Just disband and resignation?

July 30, 2014, 06:35:46 AM
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« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2014, 06:35:46 AM »
It's so hard to believe with Korea having a lot of boats out and about that they don't have a an "official coast guard". Deflection of attention.

As one of the survivors said in court this week: “If they only told us to evacuate, many could have escaped from the (sinking) ferry.” Whatever mistakes the Coast Guard made, they weren't responsible for sinking and weren't responsible for the tragic orders the untrained crew gave to the children. I'm sure if the children and abandoned ship in time, the Coast Guard would have had no trouble rescuing the survivors from the surrounding seas. That is something the nearby fishing boats would have also have been able to help with. I don't think that's a deflection of attention at all. The president and news reports have criticized the Coast Guard. And Yoo and his family certainly contributed to the media attention by essentially giving their middle fingers to the police and prosecution.

July 30, 2014, 11:08:58 PM
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« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2014, 11:08:58 PM »
Well, I guess this Coast Guard captain could have done more..
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... Meanwhile, the Gwangju District Prosecutors’ Office arrested the captain of a patrol boat from the Mokpo Coast Guard over allegations that he destroyed a daily log on the day of the Sewol ferry accident, which killed more than 300 people.

The boat was the first Coast Guard vessel that arrived at the scene that day. Crew members, however, reportedly only rescued those who had already emerged from the listing ferry and did not go inside the ship, even after they were ordered by their headquarters to do so. The 53-year-old lieutenant, only identified by his surname Kim, had been questioned since Monday. He was arrested around 3 a.m. yesterday after authorities learned he may have torn out or falsified official records.

July 31, 2014, 06:50:53 AM
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« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2014, 06:50:53 AM »
Thank you peter! You do a great job in digging up some information. That's why I will stay on this board for a while. ;)
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