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Interview with Michelle Chang. Interesting hearing her justify hiding the name Shinchonji. She obfuscates the definition of the word cult, perhaps not deliberately - I'm sure she's just repeating what she's been told, and it's a common tactic used by cults. She is also asked about Lee's book The Creation of Heaven and Earth and she is asked about the broken up families. She denies Shinchonji is to blame. And of course, she essentially admits she believes Lee is immortal. Wow.

https://soundcloud.com/theworld/michelle-chang-discusses-shinchonji

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When I ask Michelle Chang if she thinks Lee is immortal, she says, “I believe that God has the power to grant eternal life to those he chooses.” 

“It sounds like the answer is, ‘yes,’” I say. “Yes,” Chang says.

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July 11, 2016: This apocalyptic Korean Christian group goes by different names. Critics say it's just a cult.

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Lee is keen to mention that he has composed a formal declaration for the end of all global war. The text of the declaration is carved into a large stone tablet in his back yard.
lol.

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Yes, I have everything backed up. It's not always well-organised, but my JMS folder is pretty huge! This photo setback has actually helped me get better organised.

I actually had a few cordial exchanges with PJ (the American leader). He asked for the removal of some images and a video, and I complied as he had a point. I don't recall anything really threatening from him. He did say once he respected my right to free speech, but that is certainly a sentiment that is not in line with Providence. Certainly, the comments I remember as threatening came from others.

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Thank you so much for sharing all of that Lulu. I know can't be easy, but perhaps it's also therapeutic.

I'll have some questions in a couple of days. A few simple and straightforward ones concerning recent propaganda released by JMS and how they differs from or matches your own experience.

Thanks again,

Peter

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Temporary solution :)

Here is an archive of my site from April with pictures intact:
http://jmscult.com/20170414/jmscult.com/forum/index.html

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Unfortunately, I've been using Photobucket to host photos posted here.

July 7, 2017: Amazon, eBay images held to ‘ransom’ by Photobucket

I have every photo posted here on several hard drives and a couple of computers. It'll just take time to replace the broken photobucket links with alternatives.




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I somehow missed seeing this piece published last year. Wonderful to see Helen take an interest in SCJ and call out those that really should know better...

March 26, 2016: Zimbabwe: When a Whole Chief Justice Falls for a Ruse (by Helen Morris)

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As Zimbabweans, how do we feel about our most senior judge flying to South Korea, wasting days of office time at a conference with no tangible or meaningful outcome, legitimising a religious cult and then allowing state media to praise his bold contributions to the cause of peace?

Chief Justice Godfrey Chidyausiku recently came back from Seoul, South Korea, where he represented Zimbabwe at the Proclamation of the Declaration of Peace and the Cessation of War, organised by a group calling itself Heavenly Culture, World Peace and Restoration of Light (HWPL), headed by one Man Hee Lee.

A Herald article from March 15 2016 claims "the quest for global peace and harmony escalated with the historic launch of the proclamation" and praises Chidyausiku's participation in the event.

The declaration described in the article is strangely vague. The speech by Man Hee Lee, which the Herald reports as groundbreaking peace-building policy, is full of statements that even a 12-year-old might make after first seeing a bomb blast reported on the evening news -- "wars are untenable", "the work of peace is a task someone must take on", "the declaration seeks to dispose the world of all armed conflicts". Although the sentiment is noble, the declaration ignores decades of peace-building work by policy-makers around the world, and ludicrously over-simplifies local and global politics.

The website for HWPL is as vague as the speech quoted in the Herald. HWPL's "vision for sustainable peace" states that if all the heads of state "sign an international agreement" and if all the youth "agree not to fight one another ... world peace will be restored". Again, these platitudes are so obvious that they are barely worth stating.

Moreover, humanity has not been at peace since Cain killed Abel, so there is nothing to restore. The website boasts about peace marches and conferences at which peace is declared, but provides very little concrete evidence of substantial work towards developing peace in any region of the world. Man Hee Lee has "traversed the globe 24 times, talking about peace", but there is no evidence of concrete work towards peace. There are plenty of photographs of him talking or posing, but he has never mediated a conflict or brokered a ceasefire anywhere.
 
More research about Man Hee Lee reveals that the elderly white-suited man is best known in South Korea, not as a herald of peace, but as the leader of a church called Shincheonji. As the leader of Shincheonji, Man Hee Lee teaches that after Jesus ascended to Heaven, God promised to anoint another pastor, who would prepare Christians for the Second Coming. Man Hee Lee claims to be that pastor and attracts people to his sect by convincing them that "when the Second Coming arrives it will not be enough to know only God and Jesus, believers must also know the pastor promised in the New Testament" (that is Man Hee Lee). His teaching demonises "the enemy", which is anyone who refuses to recognise that Man Hee Lee is the only true route to salvation, forcing many members to cut off contact with any family and friends who are not followers of Man Hee Lee.

As God's anointed pastor, Man Hee Lee expects absolute obedience from his followers. He instructs them to limit their sleep, in order to devote more time to prayer and to studying his doctrine. The widespread sleep deprivation makes the congregation easier to frighten and emotionally manipulate. They study his teachings and his version of the Bible for four or five days a week in groups, managed by minders, who report disobedience to church elders.

Every person in Shincheonji is expected to attend three or four-hour services on Wednesdays and Sundays. Many Shincheonji branches use a digital fingerprint recognition register to ensure that every person is present. Followers are strongly urged to give up their jobs or studies in order to devote their lives entirely to the church. They are also encouraged to give up all of their savings to their leaders, leaving them completely reliant on the church community.

One of the key requirements for becoming a core member and guaranteed salvation in the Second Coming, is recruiting new members for Shincheonji. The sect became very unpopular in South Korea because members would infiltrate other churches and attract the members away from their congregations.

Many churches in South Korea have signs explicitly forbidding Shincheonji members. Shincheonji events in South Korea have to be protected by special internal church security forces, because they invariably attract protests from people who have lost family members to the cult. The government of South Korea has banned Shincheonji from advertising in local media.

The sect's deep unpopularity in South Korea meant that Man Hee Lee had to develop a new strategy for generating positive publicity for Shincheonji. He founded a "volunteer" organisation called Mannam to target foreigners. The organisation explicitly claimed not to be religious, but the key leadership was identical to Shincheonji's. Mannam hosted peace walks and parties for foreigners in South Korea to demonstrate that the church had widespread support.

In 2012, Mannam advertised (in English) a World Peace Ceremony at the Seoul Olympic Stadium, to which it invited thousands of foreigners, with no mention of Shincheonji. In Korean, however, it advertised the Shincheonji 6th Olympiad, taking place at the Seoul Olympic Stadium, at the same day and time. By publicising the large foreign audience at the event, Shincheonji was able to argue that it is a globally relevant organisation.

However, many of the people conned into attending the 2012 Mannam event were angered and frightened when they realised the close links between Mannam and Shincheonji. Mannam was disbanded, but in 2014 a new organisation was founded under the name HWPL with Man Hee Lee as chairman. In 2014, they hosted the World Alliance of Religions for Peace Summit, inviting government and civil society leaders from around the world.

Although neither Shincheonji nor Mannam were mentioned in English at the summit, attendees noted that all of the South Korean participants made the Shincheonji hand signal (thumb and index finger extended) when cameras were pointed at them. Based on the invitations that they had received, many of the participants believed that they were going to Seoul to participate in discussions and workshops or to chair panels about issues relevant to peace building. However, there were no discussions -- the programme was dominated by peace marches and mass rallies with long speeches by Man Hee Lee.

In the speeches, Man Hee Lee's solution for world peace was for all people to unite and accept one religion -- his own. The participants were divided into small groups, each of which was closely monitored by a pair of minders, who forced the participants to attend every event and demanded that they look happy for the cameras.

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Sun Myung Moon's Unification Church / A Slave to the Moonies
« on: May 31, 2017, 12:54:11 AM »
I have it on good authority that the unnamed "church" the former slave talks about from 26:35 is the Moonies:

http://one.npr.org/?sharedMediaId=528810319:529784507

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JMS News / New Zealand Herald Article on JMS
« on: May 20, 2017, 06:15:55 AM »
The New Zealand Herald just published a piece on JMS, and there's an accompanying video. I wouldn't call JMS a religious group!

May 20: Kiwi Women Targeted by Religious Group Hunting Brides for Convicted Rapist


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Brahma Kumaris / Re: Arson Attack on Essex Brahma Kumaris Center
« on: May 05, 2017, 10:41:45 PM »
In March of 2016, Stephen failed in his bid to have his sentence reduced.
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AN EX-MEMBER of a religious group jailed for a revenge campaign of arson attacks against them because he later considered them a 'cult' deserved every day of his sentence, judges ruled.

Stephen Finch, 53, had been a follower of the Brahma Kumaris movement, but came to believe the group had ruined his life.

After leaving the group in 1997, it was 17 years later he decided to take revenge on two members, targeting the Inner Space meditation centre in Gloucester Avenue, Chelmsford, a hub for the Brahma Kumaris Spiritual University, and a house in Brentwood. He pleaded guilty to two reckless arsons and two counts of religiously aggravated criminal damage and was jailed for five years at Chelmsford Crown Court last July.

Two months later, he committed suicide. The report into his death by the Prisons and Probation Ombudsman is attached below.

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Another article, this one with a brief quote from me. We actually spoke for about 25 minutes and we started at 7:30 am when I'm never at my best:
https://www.odt.co.nz/news/dunedin/korean-cult-recruiting-dunedin

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It's great to see a student magazine cover the continual threat posed by Korean cults on campuses. And it seems like every Korean cult in existence has a presence in New Zealand.

http://www.critic.co.nz/features/article/6661/i-escaped-getting-baptised-into-a-cult

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i know this one. My wife is in it.
Breaking lots of families.

some information about this world mission church of god ahnsahnghong
http://www.ahnsahnghong.info
http://tinyurl.com/ysuzgb
http://wmscog.wordpress.com
http://cog-ash.blogspot.com/
http://brendoman.com/wardwords/2005/11/21/cult#comments

Ten years later and most of those are now dead links. The last one is still online and these comments just caught my eye:
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Boohoo, What I said is pure fact. I have 2 family members in this cult. I don’t make this crap up, I don’t have a reason to. The cog has destroyed my family, turned my family members away from everyone they loved, friends & family alike. They have, without a doubt, been brainwashed. Their personalities have changed immensely since joining. They have given up their education and and the prospect of looking to the future and “bettering themselves” since they believe that the “end” is at hand. Claiming “it doesn’t matter anymore.”
How long was your friend involved, a few months at best? Did she make a trip to Korea to meet “mother"? Mine did, and they lied about it to boot. Not to mentioned they lied about joining the cog in the first place. They lied to get another family member to show up at the cog (got him there under false pretenses). I am grateful that he didn’t fall for it. Did your friend threaten you - that you’d never see her again if you didn’t listen to her preaching? Did she hold a lit lighter to you and tell you it would be thousands times worse because you would be going to hell for not joining them at cog? Yes, these things all happened to us as a result of cog.
Yes, there is a certain line of respect when discussing religion, but I draw the line when mine is not respected, especially in my own home and people try to coerse or harass me and mine. I’m glad that your friend woke up and got out of there quickly, you are more fortunate than I am. I have no reason to exaggerate…I’m fighting for my family.

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I have just spent the last couple of hours reading all of the posts on this site, and I’m hoping some ex-COG members can help me. My daughter has recently joined this church and it is tearing our family apart. She is in the process of a divorce and moved in with us, so she could go back to school and have help with the kids. Her boyfriend became involved in this church and she was originally concerned that it was a cult. Her father and I went on vacation and in the span of two weeks, she had gone to the church and become a member. She has now dropped out of college and spends almost all of her time at the church. She is spending less and less time with her kids. She is also going to move out of our house. We have been doing as much research on this church and mind control that we can. We have visited Ted’s site and it has been very helpful. We are looking for ex members of the church in the San Diego Area. She is not going to listen to us. We have considered trying an intervention, however, we don’t think she’ll cooperate. Any advice on how to approach her would be greatly appreciated. Her children are both under the age of four

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